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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Speaking from a physiological standpoint, the y chromosome is has largly devolved to be little more than a vehicle for delivering the genes responsible for giving someone the ability to produce sperm. Why is this? Because the X chromosome (the default gene in humans) is more easily preserved as it is passed down in pares and thus less easily convoluted. Two y chromosomes will not even be born, they do not have near enough genes to make a living person. When a baby is in the womb, that child will be receiving male type chemicals as well from its mother that will help determine that childs masculinity. As well, much of that childs upbringing will determine the particulars of how that child will act.

    The short answer is that we have evolved past the need for overly-masculine type males who are being replaced by a more successful, sensitive, nurturing male.

    I dont like it either.

    Well, tough!

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    Rightwing pundits (male) who want to "return to traditional gender roles"....

    should "clean their own house" first.


    Refuse to let Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham...or even the married female conservative pundits ...on the air....don't support their columns.....don't buy their books....

    tell them to "quit their jobs, go find a husband, have children, and become homemakers"
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I think the ship has turned on that stigma. Many of my friends earn as much if not more than their husbands and their husbands love it. Men are more active in child rearing these days. I agree...traditional roles are established by the couple..what works for one, may not work for another.
    I don't think that ship has turned on that stigma but it certainly has decreased.men are freer to be active in child rearing and cooking etc...but they're still seen as . helping" my nephew used to pick up his children from day care and the workers used to tell him what a wonderful dad he was. One day he asked them , 'how come you don't tell my wife what a wonderful mother she is for picking up our children. ,'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    American Masculinity's Decline: Traditional Homes Can Reverse It | National Review

    Traditionally, men-as-men made things. And of all the things they made, households in the old-fashioned sense were the most important. What I mean by old-fashioned is this: An old-fashioned household was a going concern, rather than the recreation center we see today. It demanded things of the people, because it was productive, like blacksmithing. In return, it also enriched both the men who raised houses and the women and children who were sheltered by them. I have written a little book to help bring such households back.

    To women who believe men-as-men are obsolete, I suggest you reconsider. Choosing the easy way has made you dependent and vulnerable in ways you do not seem to be aware of. I’m not going to try and tell you that you can have it all. But I do suggest you depend on something else for a change. The men I’m talking about need you, because building an old-fashioned house isn’t something they can do alone.


    This is a very enjoyable article, I was unaware that there is a show out there about blacksmiths. I hope you'll read it.

    I know I can only do one poll, but is anybody else here in a traditional marriage, where the husband works and the wife is fully responsible for keeping the house in order and caring for the children?
    There's merit in it. I think today's kids feel entitled, even the conservative raised ones. Was there a time when kids weren't lazy? It's been that way all my life. They have no stake in the survival and prosperity of the household. That's just so wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    Here is a perfect example of why I prefer foreign women. The instant I have an opinion, some American woman will brand me a misogynist.
    Well we Have tens of millions of American women and I am sure you could find one who would not brand-you a misogynist. She would have to be very submissive obviously. After all women with strong opinions just don't know their place and they can spot an insecure man who has to seek foreigners who won't give opinions,
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Why in the world does a man feel his masculinity is threatened by women who can take care of themselves. They should be proud of the fact their wives can take care of themselves and their family if anything happens to them. And it happens all the time.
    When I started making speeches after I left the classroom. I was making a great deal per speech. Someone actually asked my husband if it bothered him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Well we Have tens of millions of American women and I am sure you could find one who would not brand-you a misogynist. She would have to be very submissive obviously. After all women with strong opinions just don't know their place and they can spot an insecure man who has to seek foreigners who won't give opinions,
    omg, do you ever stop insulting people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    There's merit in it. I think today's kids feel entitled, even the conservative raised ones. Was there a time when kids weren't lazy? It's been that way all my life.

    So your children were lazy?
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    I had an interesting discussion with my dad years ago.. I am probably older than all of you here and when I grew up I had three options, be a nurse, be a secretary or be a schoolteacher. The fourth option of course was to get a man to marry me. I went for the teacher option. Many years later years later when I became an activist in the women's movement I said to my father, "I could have been anything and you made me be a teacher" he looked at me and said, "but darling you love teaching "
    He was so right. I loved every minute of it and I probably would have done something else less rewarding. Then my daughter who had the gift of teaching refused to be a teacher after people would say, "you're too bright to be a teacher"So she went into "business" and hated it. Today she is a guidance counselor in high school and absolutely loves it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    omg, do you ever stop insulting people?
    Thursday around 2:25
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