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    Veteran Member GordonGecko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Doubtful, conservative parents do not tolerate laziness out of their children. They may be naturally lazy, but with a little gentle persuasion, kids learn to clean up, put away their toys and get dressed for school.
    Not what Ginger said...was it?

    She said "all her life" children have been lazy, even conservative-raised children.



    Naturally, NOW Ginger won't answer questions about that declaration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    My question, why would we ever want to go back to a 50's style patriarchy?
    Mostly it's insecure men....and a few Rightwing women with low self-esteem....who REALLY want that.


    For GOP politicians and pundits....it's just a fantasy they SELL those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I did that,too. But get real,this is not the 1950's. Men and women are better educated. Women can afford good child care. There are excellent programs. Children actually benefit from interaction with others. They learn more.

    I lived those years,but for sure I do not want my children or Grandchildren to go back.

    I am amazed at what my children have done. This generation is even more brilliant.

    Why in the world would anyone want to go back to the rosy,good ole days that never were?
    The only thing from "the good old days" i'd like to go back to / see in today's world still, is the ability for children to learn independently and amongst themselves, without the need for permanent adult supervision.

    I will always look back onto my childhood, where we were outdoors and without supervision the majority of our non-school time as very valuable, and something today's generations are missing.

    And I do actually not think that the world / neighborhood has become more dangerous for a child today than it was back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    There's merit in it. I think today's kids feel entitled, even the conservative raised ones. Was there a time when kids weren't lazy? It's been that way all my life. They have no stake in the survival and prosperity of the household. That's just so wrong.
    You must be around the wrong kids. True,they do not clean up their rooms. They are too busy building computers and designing robots.

    This is a whole new world and I am thrilled to watch it happen.

    The traditional family today is both parents doing what needs to be done at the time.a partnership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    The only thing from "the good old days" i'd like to go back to / see in today's world still, is the ability for children to learn independently and amongst themselves, without the need for permanent adult supervision.

    I will always look back onto my childhood, where we were outdoors and without supervision the majority of our non-school time as very valuable, and something today's generations are missing.

    And I do actually not think that the world / neighborhood has become more dangerous for a child today than it was back then.
    I do not see government interfering. They get federal money to help build good schools. That is why you never see one room school houses any more.

    Even when I was a child we had nice Schools and a brand new High School. Only the very rural areas had one room schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I do not see government interfering. They get federal money to help build good schools. That is why you never see one room school houses any more.

    Even when I was a child we had nice Schools and a brand new High School. Only the very rural areas had one room schools.
    I have no idea what that has to do with kids not being able to go outside and play amongst themselves today anymore (to a very large degree, that is), which was "the normal" two generations ago still.

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    My wife and I both work full time. She prepares meals. I fold laundry. She loads the dishwasher. I tell her that she's loading it all wrong. We have a system that works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    There's merit in it. I think today's kids feel entitled, even the conservative raised ones. Was there a time when kids weren't lazy? It's been that way all my life. They have no stake in the survival and prosperity of the household. That's just so wrong.
    I think you're completely wrong about kids. Actually, kids today are just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    The fifties... no I really don't want to go back to limited options in life, dependency on a man etc.
    The question is whether this is possible, and it is, of course, possible. Likely is another story.

    The Fifties was supported by strong social mores and cultural institutions that demanded adherence to traditional norms by all men and women. They were socially ostracized if they didn't engage in the social norms of the time. Not sure how that happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    My husband and I were able to do so. There was much coupon-cutting, hand-me-downs and the annual garden. We never felt we lacked for anything.

    These days, childcare is very expensive, so we might start seeing a swing back to housewives, aka stay-at-home moms.
    Why is it necessarily the woman who should do the child care? And why is it that you believe others should live their lives as you lived yours?

    There are plenty of traditional families in the US. There's no law against them. But if they are no longer as functional as they once were, why force anyone to return to them (either through law or social custom)?

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