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    Is it possible to return to traditional gender roles?

    American Masculinity's Decline: Traditional Homes Can Reverse It | National Review

    Traditionally, men-as-men made things. And of all the things they made, households in the old-fashioned sense were the most important. What I mean by old-fashioned is this: An old-fashioned household was a going concern, rather than the recreation center we see today. It demanded things of the people, because it was productive, like blacksmithing. In return, it also enriched both the men who raised houses and the women and children who were sheltered by them. I have written a little book to help bring such households back.

    To women who believe men-as-men are obsolete, I suggest you reconsider. Choosing the easy way has made you dependent and vulnerable in ways you do not seem to be aware of. I’m not going to try and tell you that you can have it all. But I do suggest you depend on something else for a change. The men I’m talking about need you, because building an old-fashioned house isn’t something they can do alone.
    This is a very enjoyable article, I was unaware that there is a show out there about blacksmiths. I hope you'll read it.

    I know I can only do one poll, but is anybody else here in a traditional marriage, where the husband works and the wife is fully responsible for keeping the house in order and caring for the children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    American Masculinity's Decline: Traditional Homes Can Reverse It | National Review



    This is a very enjoyable article, I was unaware that there is a show out there about blacksmiths. I hope you'll read it.

    I know I can only do one poll, but is anybody else here in a traditional marriage, where the husband works and the wife is fully responsible for keeping the house in order and caring for the children?
    "Traditional home"...when?
    The 17th, 18th, 19th or first half of the 20th century???
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    Middle of last century.

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    You can't put toothpaste back in a tube.

    I don't consider men obsolete anymore than women are. So I reject his premise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    American Masculinity's Decline: Traditional Homes Can Reverse It | National Review



    This is a very enjoyable article, I was unaware that there is a show out there about blacksmiths. I hope you'll read it.

    I know I can only do one poll, but is anybody else here in a traditional marriage, where the husband works and the wife is fully responsible for keeping the house in order and caring for the children?
    I think it depends on how much the woman earns. Today, it is hard to provide for families on one income. If a family does not have the financial means or family support system (someone they trust to watch the kids) is might be better for one to stay home. If a woman has good family support, such as grandma and you can always pay to have your house cleaned and she earns a good wage..it might be better off for the family..in the long term, that she does work. Kids have a lot of expenses later on, such as sweet sixteen cars, college, weddings, etc. It takes a fair amount of money to pay for those things. I never could understand why a woman would work and only clear an extra 200.00 a month because the family paid most of her earnings out for daycare. Doesn't make much sense, at least financially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    Middle of last century.
    The fifties... no I really don't want to go back to limited options in life, dependency on a man etc.
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    What gender roles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I think it depends on how much the woman earns. Today, it is hard to provide for families on one income. If a family does not have the financial means or family support system (someone they trust to watch the kids) is might be better for one to stay home. If a woman has good family support, such as grandma and you can always pay to have your house cleaned and she earns a good wage..it might be better off for the family..in the long term, that she does work. Kids have a lot of expenses later on, such as sweet sixteen cars, college, weddings, etc. It takes a fair amount of money to pay for those things. I never could understand why a woman would work and only clear an extra 200.00 a month because the family paid most of her earnings out for daycare. Doesn't make much sense, at least financially.
    Women are earning more more money . That used to be a stigma if a woman more than her husband and I still think it is. I think men have the burden of having to be the breadwinner. I think it should be up to a couple who stays home if they believe there should be a parent home. It is still a stigma if a man is a homemaker, Women are free to have both options

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    My husband and I were able to do so. There was much coupon-cutting, hand-me-downs and the annual garden. We never felt we lacked for anything.

    These days, childcare is very expensive, so we might start seeing a swing back to housewives, aka stay-at-home moms.
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    Meanwhile, in Japan:

    “women should quit their jobs once they give birth,” says Ayako Sono, a conservative author in an essay titled “To Spoiled Female Workers Who Blame Their Employers For Everything” in a recent edition of the weekly magazine Shukan Gendai. . . Ms. Sono, a prominent 81-year-old novelist and essayist, opens her essay by calling the terms sexual harassment and maternity harassment–workplace discrimination against expecting mothers-”dirty expressions,” not for the inequality they represent but for women’s overreaction to social discomforts.

    Ms. Sono goes on to advocate mothers stay home at least until their children are old enough to take care of themselves.


    Source: https://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/...obs-stay-home/

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