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  • WBC protesters should be in a re-education gulag as we spoeck, learning some fucking manners.

    1 5.00%
  • It was a funeral! That's so outrageous, it should not have been protected.

    0 0%
  • WBC should have been forced by the cops to move 1 mile away. Easy. now everyone's happy.

    1 5.00%
  • WBC is so horrible, who gives a fuck what their rights are?

    0 0%
  • WBC porotesters are Americans, and they had the right to do exactly what they did.

    17 85.00%
  • I hate rude people.

    1 5.00%
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Thread: Do You Think The First Amendment Goes Too Far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    That is not the argument nor does it satisfy as an answer to my post.
    No possible argument exists.

    The SCOTUS's decisions are the rule of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No possible argument exists.

    The SCOTUS's decisions are the rule of law.
    The rule of law and the Supreme Court are two unrelated things.

    Are you saying that no possible argument exists, ergo, the Supreme Court has never overuled another Supreme Court opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The rule of law and the Supreme Court are two unrelated things.

    Are you saying that no possible argument exists, ergo, the Supreme Court has never overuled another Supreme Court opinion?
    This fact proves that SCOTUS has the last word -- even as to rules of law created by older SCOTUS decisions.

    Care to address the Op, now or ever, on this thread?

    Or will you be playing with red herrings till the bitter end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post


    There's a movement afoot to convince Americans that the First Amendment "goes too far". (Apparently, except when it protects the free expression of bigotry against GLBT people by self-professed "religious" people.

    But I digress......}

    And many highly-respected people NOT on PH, liberals and conservatives, seem to agree.



    https://www.jamesgmartin.center/2017...s-free-speech/

    The SCOTUS has ruled that the Westboro Baptist Church protesters have a First Amendment right to say what they like at a time and place cruelly calculated to inflict terrible emotional pain on that soldier's loved ones -- his funeral.

    So kindly read this very brief decision, and show me where you feel the SCOTUS got it wrong.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/09-751.ZS.html

    Also, if you are a citizen of a "better" system of government than the U.S.'s, as to this point, please explain how your government would have dealt with the WBC protesters.

    @galatin, @Leo2, @Dangermouse, @DrKnuckles, @The Man

    Let the games begin!
    The first amendment isn't there to protect speech I like or you like or what snowflakes like.

    Now. If I saw this person, I would give them a few moments of my Free Speech rights very loudly very clearly, that is my right.


    Griffin had the right to post the beheaded Trump. that was her right, no one stopped her.. Now people are giving her their reaction via their free speech rights.

    If someone told Griffin she could not make the video, I would defend her right to do so... but I would also have the same reaction I have today to the video, that is MY free speech right.

    Now you see crap like this, It is your right to give them a dose of your free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    This fact proves that SCOTUS has the last word -- even as to rules of law created by older SCOTUS decisions.

    Care to address the Op, now or ever, on this thread?

    Or will you be playing with red herrings till the bitter end?
    There are no constitutional facts to support that the Supreme Court has the last word, and there are not constitutional facts that the Supreme Court has any jurisdiction regarding the Bill of Rights, and most certainly not the First Amendment.

    I believe I have addressed the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    The first amendment isn't there to protect speech I like or you like or what snowflakes like.

    Now. If I saw this person, I would give them a few moments of my Free Speech rights very loudly very clearly, that is my right.


    Griffin had the right to post the beheaded Trump. that was her right, no one stopped her.. Now people are giving her their reaction via their free speech rights.

    If someone told Griffin she could not make the video, I would defend her right to do so... but I would also have the same reaction I have today to the video, that is MY free speech right.

    Now you see crap like this, It is your right to give them a dose of your free speech.
    Did you vote on the poll above? I wish you would, please.

    Because you have it 100% correct IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Did you vote on the poll above? I wish you would, please.

    Because you have it 100% correct IMO.
    I cannot vote in the poll because all the questions assume positions that are not constitutional and I do not agree with any of the questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Wow, really? They have no history of any criminal activity here in the US.

    Canada banned them because they say such hideous things, and for no other reason?
    We don't want trash like this up here. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Did you vote on the poll above? I wish you would, please.

    Because you have it 100% correct IMO.
    I would but the choices (most likely due to character limitations don't fit my whole opinion on free speech)

    I have the right to call a black person the "N" word, I wouldn't because it violates my principles. But if I did I should face the consequences of the act, and not be shocked someone called me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    We don't want trash like this up here. Sorry.
    Neither do we, down here.
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