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  • WBC protesters should be in a re-education gulag as we spoeck, learning some fucking manners.

    1 5.00%
  • It was a funeral! That's so outrageous, it should not have been protected.

    0 0%
  • WBC should have been forced by the cops to move 1 mile away. Easy. now everyone's happy.

    1 5.00%
  • WBC is so horrible, who gives a fuck what their rights are?

    0 0%
  • WBC porotesters are Americans, and they had the right to do exactly what they did.

    17 85.00%
  • I hate rude people.

    1 5.00%
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    Veteran Member Madeline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Trump is a nazi, you support trump therefore you are a nazi and anything you say is hate speech. - how social justice warriors see it. Some go the step further and add in therefore it is justified to attack you because it's like punching hitter before he took power.

    Even though yours is the rational version... But I'd rather someone let me know their opinions than keeping that anger bottled up.
    I'm not sure Trump is a Nazi. He has no coherent political philosophy that I can tell, apart from:

    "Fuck off. I'm the president and you're not."

    But he clearly appeals to every white supremacist in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDozer View Post
    Freedom of speech has all sorts of caveats, including laws against slander, laws against inciting to panic, laws against public obscenity. I feel like someone could make the case that the latter could apply here.
    To the WBC funeral protests?

    No. SCOTUS was very clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    We are not supposed to take joy in the punishment of our enemies. When the Egyptian soldiers were drowning in the sea after it parted, then closed in around them, the angels were rebuked for celebrating. G-d said to them, "How can you sing when my people are dying?" (It's in the Talmud, not the written Torah.) G-d certainly had His moments that seem cruel to humans, but He does not celebrate deaths.
    That was a long time. Maybe God is a different person now. We all change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    That was a long time. Maybe G-d is a different person now. We all change.
    G-d is eternal and unchanging. In Judaism, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    That was a long time. Maybe God is a different person now. We all change.
    Was that sarcasm I smelled?

    LOLOLOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    G-d is eternal and unchanging. In Judaism, anyway.
    In Deism as well. The Divine is never absent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Dafuq? "Common sense"? As in, the PTB had no issues with mobs of citizens, angry at their government, until the dawn of 21st century, when all that lovely spirit of cooperation and brotherhood between the rich and the poor just went to Hell?

    History is not your friend, sir. I don't even know where to start.
    Exactly, people fought and died for those rights, shouldn't make it so easy to give them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I'm not sure Trump is a Nazi. He has no coherent political philosophy that I can tell, apart from:

    "Fuck off. I'm the president and you're not."

    But he clearly appeals to every white supremacist in America.
    Yes, but that is the argument made by groups like Antifa, it doesn't have to make sense to a rational person like yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I'm not sure Trump is a Nazi. He has no coherent political philosophy that I can tell, apart from:

    "Fuck off. I'm the president and you're not."

    But he clearly appeals to every white supremacist in America.
    He is a pragmatist, he is a person that will decide on something try it if it does not work, change and do something else, unlike politicians that have an idea get it passed and if it does not work, decide well it just did not have enough funding, and just throw good money after bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Kept away by counter-protesters, though.

    NOT the government.
    The Westboro tried this crap in Nashville, we put a human wall between them and the family of the fallen.

    They had their protest and we Christians had our protest against their basterization of our faith.
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