View Poll Results: Do you think anything earth shattering will result from NSA and FBI directors?

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  • No, one side of the aisle will play it up and the other play it down

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  • Yes it will show clearly what a liar Trump is

    3 27.27%
  • Both with shy away from saying anything concrete

    0 0%
  • We'll just see a bunch of grandstanding by the politicians asking the questions

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Thread: Will anything earth shattering come from NSA director and Comey's testimony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
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    Because it was independent of Trump's campaign.

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    I suspect that comey testimony is going to shock a lot of people watching live...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    I suspect that comey testimony is going to shock a lot of people watching live...
    Liberals are going to poop their pants when he clears Trump, AGAIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
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    Because this hack, the most serious allegation against Russia yet about interfering in the election, did not involve the Trump campaign. It was orchestrated out of Russia.

    If there was collusion and they were willing to hack voting machines, where was the Trump campaign in all of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Liberals are going to poop their pants when he clears Trump, AGAIN.
    There will be something Comey says that will muddy the waters, just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Because this hack, the most serious allegation against Russia yet about interfering in the election, did not involve the Trump campaign. It was orchestrated out of Russia.

    If there was collusion and they were willing to hack voting machines, where was the Trump campaign in all of this?
    We don't know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    My answer wasn't listed. It will be part of the drip, drip, drip. If Trump asked three or four different people to make the Flynn investigation go away, is that obstruction of justice? How far can a president go before he's criminally interfering? That's the real question, and it won't be answered by the testimony we'll be hearing. It's the posturing afterward that will matter.
    I can see Trump, with no experience in governing and lots of experience in you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours crony capitalism thinking that's just how government works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I can see Trump, with no experience in governing and lots of experience in you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours crony capitalism thinking that's just how government works.
    But that's not the question, is it? I'll bet many thieves don't think of stealing as immoral either. We don't ask them their attitudes and beliefs before sentencing.

    The question is whether it was his intention to use his position and authority to stifle an investigation he didn't like. The question ISN'T whether he thought that behavior was legitimate. Ignorance of the law is no excuse--particularly for the person senior-most in enforcing the laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    But that's not the question, is it? I'll bet many thieves don't think of stealing as immoral either. We don't ask them their attitudes and beliefs before sentencing.

    The question is whether it was his intention to use his position and authority to stifle an investigation he didn't like. The question ISN'T whether he thought that behavior was legitimate. Ignorance of the law is no excuse--particularly for the person senior-most in enforcing the laws.
    Problem is that there hasn't been much evidence at the presidential in the past few years to actually prove that line of thinking wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Problem is that there hasn't been much evidence at the presidential in the past few years to actually prove that line of thinking wrong.
    Wow. That's a huge claim you can't possibly prove, driven only by your prejudice. You're trying to muddy the waters--something you do out of tribal loyalty and not because it makes any sense.

    The law isn't about a "line of thinking." The only line of thinking is that the investigatory agencies are independent of the president and the WH. The last president never put himself in the position Trump has done. No president since Nixon has done anything like this.

    I think that a casual comment to a single individual might not constitute obstruction...but saying stuff like this multiple times to multiple people? Any actual attempt to put pressure on the FBI that interferes with an investigation of his cronies is obstruction, by definition. If Trump doesn't know that, he's a fool. But then from the way his tweets undermine everything his administration is trying to do, that's regularly apparent.

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