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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    That would be the definition of it but in reality EO's can create whole new laws.
    No, they cannot. The legislative power belongs wholly to the Congress. EOs can lead to more EOs, of course, but that is all they are, and they remain subject to suspense and revocation by the president at will. All they can do is carry out the laws made by Congress, or express the policy of the executive branch within the limits of the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Well, the president cannot be prosecuted while in office anyway; prosecution would have to wait pending impeachment and removal.
    If that is true it's absurd.
    Why should a criminal be protected by party partisans.
    If the GOP is presented with clear evidence of a presidential crime, they should have the right to shield that president from any punishment....other than losing his/her job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No, it is not. As with anyone else, he should be afraid of prosecution for breaking the law - just like anyone else. That is where impeachment can get you, and what it is for in the first place.

    See U.S. Const. art. II, 4.
    why would he be afraid if, like Nixon...he's able to resign after making a deal of immunity with the next president in his own party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    If that is true it's absurd.
    Why should a criminal be protected by party partisans.
    If the GOP is presented with clear evidence of a presidential crime, they should have the right to shield that president from any punishment....other than losing his/her job?

    why would he be afraid if, like Nixon...he's able to resign after making a deal of immunity with the next president in his own party?
    Because a president cannot do their job if they are fighting a criminal investigation.

    You have to wait until they are out of office.
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    Short answer is "no." Long answer is "fuck, no."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Bill Clinton is damned happy he couldn't be arrested for his perjury.
    So just REPUBLICAN ONES?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Because a president cannot do their job if they are fighting a criminal investigation.

    You have to wait until they are out of office.
    We shouldn't allow a criminal president to do his job! We don't allow other criminals to do their job....they goto prison!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    We shouldn't allow a criminal president to do his job! We don't allow other criminals to do their job....they goto prison!
    So, if we dislike a POTUS, should we just keep going after him with some BENGHAZI type poppycock until we can nail his ass?

    Problem with that is, we already spend the better part of any administration either going after or defending the president against such ridiculous accusations. Politicians have always had a sort of gentleman's agreement NOT to go after each other criminally. That is how I like it. Political criminals are commonplace in the rest of the world, those countries often do very poorly, because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Executive orders carry the full weight of law.
    Jesus.....Republicans whined endlessly about Obama and his EO's. Do you not remember? They were evil socialism on steroids when Obama Inked them, now, Trump uses them instead of going through congress. Who needs checks and balances, right?

    All hail emperor Trump!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Bill Clinton is damned happy he couldn't be arrested for his perjury.
    He paid for it in another way. He lost his license to practice law and his sleaziness help cost his wife the presidency. What more do you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I think it has become a money game now...if you are wealthy, you are automatically above the law. Trump is a corrupt scum bag and his money has shielded him for decades.
    Money buys the best lawyers but in Trump's case the best ones aren't interested. LOL

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