View Poll Results: Is Ohio's Opioid Problem a Terrorist Attack?

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  • Absolutely not. Drugs should be legal. It's their body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Well I guess I could envision a domestic type of terrorism where "they" (substitute bad authority) dreamed up a way to take down the lower and middle class by drugging them into a stupor. Keep them addicted so they dont care anymore about politics, economics, society in general. Makes it easier for "them" to take over and do what they want if a lot of people arent aware.
    I sometimes wonder if Kentucky is not doing this to their citizens. The State has done next to nothing to minimize addiction. Keep them stoned and happy and they don't notice the poverty that surrounds them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Well I guess I could envision a domestic type of terrorism where "they" (substitute bad authority) dreamed up a way to take down the lower and middle class by drugging them into a stupor. Keep them addicted so they dont care anymore about politics, economics, society in general. Makes it easier for "them" to take over and do what they want if a lot of people arent aware.
    I wish I could understand the mind of those who do drugs. The couple of times I was prescribed them by my Doctor who just wanted me to get through very bad times, I felt numb,knew I had serious problems to face. Although I was told they were very mild I knew they were affecting me. I do take Aleeve and allergy pills. Nothing that affects my thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I sometimes wonder if Kentucky is not doing this to their citizens. The State has done next to nothing to minimize addiction. Keep them stoned and happy and they don't notice the poverty that surrounds them.
    Ohio,WV and other states seem to be just as bad. Kentucky has Bourbon .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I wish I could understand the mind of those who do drugs. The couple of times I was prescribed them by my Doctor who just wanted me to get through very bad times, I felt numb,knew I had serious problems to face. Although I was told they were very mild I knew they were affecting me. I do take Aleeve and allergy pills. Nothing that affects my thinking.
    I don't get it either. I have taken opioids after surgeries and dental work and I never felt impaired or buzzed from them. Even when they were prescribed 2 every 4 hours. Took them for a couple months after I fractured my ankle and no withdrawal symptoms at all. I just forgot to take them one day and that was it. I did try a Oxy out of curiosity one evening, they were prescribed for my husbands kidney stones and I was bored. The only thing it did was knock me stone cold out after 20 minutes. Who wants to sleep all the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    In that case, they're too mellow to be criminal - another reason to legalize.
    Marijuana greatly enhances the efficacy of opioid pain killers. Football players love pot because they don't want to get addicated to oxycontin, and they can take 25% the opioids if they can smoke weed, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Several cities and (I think) a few states, along with thousands of patients, are suing the manufacturer of oxycotin for damages caused by their defective drug.
    I disagree - somewhat.

    The drug is not defective. It's marketed as a painkiller - and it's an extremely effective painkiller. So I'm not sure we can call the drug "defective." However, the manner in which the drug was marketed to prescribing doctors was wholly irresponsible. The question is whether any laws were broken. If not, a lawsuit wouldn't succeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I don't get it either. I have taken opioids after surgeries and dental work and I never felt impaired or buzzed from them. Even when they were prescribed 2 every 4 hours. Took them for a couple months after I fractured my ankle and no withdrawal symptoms at all. I just forgot to take them one day and that was it. I did try a Oxy out of curiosity one evening, they were prescribed for my husbands kidney stones and I was bored. The only thing it did was knock me stone cold out after 20 minutes. Who wants to sleep all the time?
    I did take serious pain killers when I broke my wrist and they could not set it for a couple of days. The Doctors at the Hospital prescribed them.

    Also,when my carpel tunnel nerve caused my hand to feel like a block of wood. After every test under the sun they decided I had exercised too much,because all my tests showed no signs of a stroke. Steroids solved that one.

    I was given steroids once before. I cleaned the house,the car,my garden shed,the garage,then mowed my lawn. True story

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I sometimes wonder if Kentucky is not doing this to their citizens. The State has done next to nothing to minimize addiction. Keep them stoned and happy and they don't notice the poverty that surrounds them.
    I have suspected that for years up here. I noticed about a decade ago when the logging/paper industry was going under here a lot of people started becoming addicted to painkillers. The story was they had back pain or some sort of pain related to their jobs. But now I do wonder. What if the doctors decided to keep them comfortable and stoned instead? They already knew how addictive Oxy was at that point and they were giving it out like candy. Now I see many of these same types of areas, WVA, KY, OH etc all had similar circumstances.

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    This country loves it's drugs.We are duggies now as we were alcoholics in early America.

    Doctor's passing out scripts like candy made opiods an easy get.

    Unlike pot or alcohol...opiods are extremely addictive and hard to shake.

    America has a opiod problem because America has a perscription medication addiction. We are a heavily medicated society.



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    And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    This country loves it's drugs.We are duggies now as we were alcoholics in early America.

    Doctor's passing out scripts like candy made opiods an easy get.

    Unlike pot or alcohol...opiods are extremely addictive and hard to shake.

    America has a opiod problem because America has a perscription medication addiction. We are a heavily medicated society.
    I am always amazed at even little kids and their pill boxes. I cant believe how many need meds all the time. There were articles back in the 90s about how Ritalin and ADD drugs were being handed out like crazy. Some conspiracists even claimed it was done intentionally to draw kids away from pot. Either way many suspected it was overdone and may have contributed to school shootings and the like. People seem to want a pill for everything when they go to the doctor. They don't want to hear "eat healthy and exercise" instead its "don't you have a pill for that, I just saw an ad on tv." It just makes sense that now we have this problem. Its become part of our mentality.

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