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Thread: If Trump preemptively pardons Russiagate suspects.....is that Obstruction of Justice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    What would change is a charge of OoJ being filed against Trump for corruptly using his pardon power to hide his guilt.
    Unfortunately for you, the founders did not add in corruption to the power of the pardon.

    Its all perfectly legal whether you like it or not.

    Trump can use it to obstruct justice or not, that's a power given to him.

    Perhaps you should push for an amendment to change that but at this point you are shit out of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    If Trump felt that was a risk he could add himself to the pardon.
    ergo....Constitutional crisis brought on by yet another criminal GOP President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Unfortunately for you, the founders did not add in corruption to the power of the pardon.

    Its all perfectly legal whether you like it or not.

    Trump can use it to obstruct justice or not, that's a power given to him.

    Perhaps you should push for an amendment to change that but at this point you are shit out of luck
    Translation: Fuck the law and morality.....Republicans stand for evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    ergo....Constitutional crisis brought on by yet another criminal GOP President.
    That hardly qualifies as a constitutional crisis.

    Well maybe to the liberals it would.

    The Constitution is pretty clear on this power.

    Its unlimited and unrestricted except for the things listed in the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Translation: Fuck the law and morality.....Republicans stand for evil.
    We eat babies also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    We eat babies also.
    I've been explaining that to my grandsons since they were born.
    Last edited by Devil505; 19th November 2017 at 07:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    But the use of that section by a president/co-conspirator would be corrupt and an attempt to obstruct justice.
    Really? Then why did Clinton get away with pardoning Mark Rich?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Really? Then why did Clinton get away with pardoning Mark Rich?
    HUTA syndrome. You have a very bad case. Everything posted brings out the Clinton in you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Really? Then why did Clinton get away with pardoning Mark Rich?
    Let's do away with the presidential pardon.
    Why should a politician have such power anyway?(much to the chagrin of Republicans......we don't have kings in this country)
    Last edited by Devil505; 19th November 2017 at 08:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I say yes because he would be trying to stop an investigation probably leading to himself.
    No idea. Details matter.

    Would be up to a prosecutor to sort through the specifics.

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