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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I like when the stock market does well.

    But unless the President, either one, did something in legislation that effected the stock market - then its got nothing to do with him.

    Our dollar is up. Our stock market is up. Our unemployment is down. I’m sure it gives a boost to the governing Liberals, but I’ve never heard anyone claim that the Prime Minister was in any way responsible for that.

    He passed two annual budgets. And passed some tax changes. But that will take years to show effects on the economy.

    Has Donald Trump done anything? Set a regulation, launched a policy, laid a sanction, built some infrastructure, made a law, cancelled a law? Anything?

    Anything at all to deserve any blame or credit for it?
    He cancelled some regulations.

    His EPA has thrown in the towel on trying to protect the environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    He cancelled some regulations.

    His EPA has thrown in the towel on trying to protect the environment.
    Maybe Cleveland will set their river on fire for warmth this winter.

    Or, maybe it's not quite as bad as some people are making it out to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    He cancelled some regulations.

    His EPA has thrown in the towel on trying to protect the environment.
    Well that’s something.

    Anything big enough that it would actually move the needle on the national economy?

    Genuine question.

    I seriously don’t understand this.

    A national leader should be on the news about twice a month. They don’t sign a paper and change the economy. If they bust their ass and pass massive legislation specifically about economic reform they MIGHT make a little dent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Perhaps you should analyze the stock market, the economy, the GDP, etc.

    There is your real answer.

    No all this whining from a bunch of psychos suffering from TDS.
    Those were on their same rise path since 2009. The indicators would be doing the same if Clinton were in office.

    If the econ is doing so well and is projected to meet Trump's projections...why do we need a massive tax cut for the wealthiest?


    If the Trump miracle is true he would reach his promised magical 4% GDP growth without any top 1% tax cuts.



    Even Trump supporters know Trump's claims are full of shit.
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    "This American Carnage stops right here...right now." Inaugural speech.

    Name one thing Trump listed as causes of the American Carnage that Trump has even addressed to fix.

    Not a fucking one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Well that’s something.

    Anything big enough that it would actually move the needle on the national economy?

    Genuine question.

    I seriously don’t understand this.

    A national leader should be on the news about twice a month. They don’t sign a paper and change the economy. If they bust their ass and pass massive legislation specifically about economic reform they MIGHT make a little dent.
    I don't know. His fans say it has made a difference. They don't recognize our current trajectory as basically a continuation of what we had during Obama's last year. Businesses have possibly been banking on him doing more deregulation. Supposedly some have been banking on the tax cuts coming their way. So, it might have made a little dent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yeah, but you said "ONLY REALLY WEALTHY PEOPLE" did you not?

    More than half of Americans are invested in the stock market and thus will benefit, as I pointed out.

    You are just wrong on this issue.
    Nope, I said it benefits them MORE - trying to actually read what I post. And stock ownership is at it's lowest level. Again from my link

    Combine the uneven ownership rates and ownership amounts, and the total inequality in the stock market is astounding. As of 2013, the top 1 percent of households by wealth owned nearly 38 percent of all stock shares, according to research by New York University economist Edward Wolff.


    Heck, the median income is still stuck at around 55K a year. Half of those people don't have the money to put into any kind of retirement account or the stock market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The Obamaeconomy growth was on a downward trend 2010 through 2016, all the way down to 1.6% in 2016. It's over 50% higher now.

    If your home is worth more in 2017 than 2016, you make more, you retirement account has grown and there are more jobs available, aren't you better off.
    The actual data does not agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    I don't know. His fans say it has made a difference. They don't recognize our current trajectory as basically a continuation of what we had during Obama's last year. Businesses have possibly been banking on him doing more deregulation. Supposedly some have been banking on the tax cuts coming their way. So, it might have made a little dent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Nothing but drive up the stock market on the hopes of massive deregulation (think gutting the Dodd/Frank bill) You know, the thing that only really wealthy people benefit from....
    Here ya go HayJenn, since you can't seem to remember what you said.

    "only really wealthy people benefit"...those are your words.

    But you do realize by now that more than those "really rich people" benefit from a rising stock market, don't you?

    You DO realize it, right?

    It's OK, most of the rest of us realize it, even if you can't/don't/won't.

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