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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I meant not appear. ...ie thumb his nose at our laws like he's done all his miserable life.
    I think the present laws would allow Trump...the person... to plead the fifth but my opinion is that he shouldn't be able to unless he resigns or is removed from office first.
    Pleading the 5th is not a confession. The presumption is innocent until proven guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    I find it odd that OP wants to take rights away from someone because he was elected to an office. In truth, it's just more Trump hatred. Anything to try and bash Trump, over and over again.
    Lots of people want to bend the rules to reach a desired result, from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    That was my answer,no. You can use that but he should be removed.

    I know what the law says. But I do not agree and that does not just mean Trump. That extends to Clinton,or anyone else that is in office.
    So you want to suspend the rules of law to punish perceived criminality?

    Ironical.

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    The pesidents works for "we the people." Do our bosses alow us to remain silent? Can I plead the fifth at work when I wreck the company vehicle? How about if I punch the owner's son?

    Trump works for us, we hired him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Psst......Trump was one of those cowards.
    Thanks for posting another hatred toward Trump message but he was not. Your post is, as they often are, BULLSHIT. President Trump did not have to receive a pardon for evading the draft because he did not violate the law. Should I infer from your post that you are dishonest and just lied about it or that you are ignorant and don't know about it? Personally, I think that the Trump Derangement Syndrome that you suffer from is shown in this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    The pesidents works for "we the people." Do our bosses alow us to remain silent? Can I plead the fifth at work when I wreck the company vehicle? How about if I punch the owner's son?

    Trump works for us, we hired him.
    Yes, you can plead the 5th when you wreck the company vehicle or punch the owner's son. You retain that right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Pleading the 5th is not a confession. The presumption is innocent until proven guilty.
    Trump has an obligation to the people who got him elected and to those who must suffer through the indegnation of his unwanted presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Yes, you can plead the 5th when you wreck the company vehicle or punch the owner's son. You retain that right.
    So a boss would have to keep me on because of my presumed innocence? Awesome. Off I go. Guess I can do whatever I want at work untill I'm found guilty in a court of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Thanks for posting another hatred toward Trump message but he was not. Your post is, as they often are, BULLSHIT. President Trump did not have to receive a pardon for evading the draft because he did not violate the law. Should I infer from your post that you are dishonest and just lied about it or that you are ignorant and don't know about it? Personally, I think that the Trump Derangement Syndrome that you suffer from is shown in this post.
    Trump was a draft dodger. Defend him all you want. People without money served and died. Trump made excuses and avoided death because he was a snotty little rich kid. Why are you mad at Devil? He didn't force someone else's kid to fight and die in his place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Careful! Nixon didn't think his PARDON conferred guilt! HE WAS WRONG! Ford carried a piece of folded up paper around IN HIS WALLET with the rules of pardon for years including ADMISSION OF GUILT if one was given a pardon.

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    After leaving office in 1977, Ford carried in his wallet a copy of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision which found that a pardon reflected a presumption of guilt and that the acceptance of a pardon was tantamount to a confession.
    Note, however, that the Nixon pardon did not specify any crimes, but merely referred to any crime he has committed or may have committed. Thus, while we can say he was likely guilty of something, he did not really confess to anything in particular.
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