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    Vote Socialist Democrat ( Or enable the Socialist Democrats by voting Turd party or Lie-bertarian )

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I'd start a fake news site and spread propaganda that fed into the fears of the paranoid snowflakes out there who think everyone is out to get them.

    The Mexicans are coming for your jobs!

    The liberals are coming for your guns!

    The poor are coming for your money!

    The government is coming for your religion!

    The gays are coming for your restrooms!
    Yep, https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

    Considering some responses here and consideration of how one might recognize.......this one seems to fit....

    "Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause"
    "The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. "

    https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/fas...cist-movements
    Last edited by KnotaFrayed; 24th February 2018 at 09:21 PM.
    Thanks from boontito

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    At the same time, how would you go about stopping anyone from using the internet, in the ways you would use it to undermine America, American society and democracy?
    What do you mean by "undermine America"? Chaos? Anarchy? Zombie apocalypse?

    Attacks on the power grid would be highly effective. Transport. Water. Even banking.


    As a sideline. Do you believe there are paid shills/trolls that are regulars that visit this website to foment division?
    Fuck no. There's no shortage of volunteers. Why waste the dough? Not to mention, much as we love PH, it is not especially prominent among American political message boards.

    If you believe they visit this site, what do you look for to try to identify them and how would a site like this prevent their presence?
    I think this is a legitimate concern for major news outlets. It would significantly reduce effective communication if people lost faith in such well-respected sources as the AP, Reuters, etc.

    The "sideline" questions are intended to demonstrate how difficult it might be for any website managers to identify and possibly block them, not to deny them freedom of speech, but to block any intent to deceive and abuse freedom of speech to spread lies, misinformation and foment division.
    Sadly, freedom of speech includes the right to spread lies (unless defamatory), etc. And, as you say, the owners of media are not constrained by the first amendment anyway, as they are private persons rather than government.

    There's no easy solution to the problem, and mere vigilance by the public is clearly inadequate.

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