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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    We will always disagree on this point.
    Yes. You cannot reasonably base a constitutional opinion on an assertion that case law is wrong just because you do not like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Even constitutionally guaranteed rights have limits. For example, laws preventing felons from possessing guns are constitutional.

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    There were no limits on the rights in the Bill of Rights regarding the federal government because the Bill of Rights was turned into a set of restrictions on the federal government by the First Congress. The rights were not protected, which is what the amendments that Madison submitted did. That was a libertarian approach that emulated the English Bill of Rights and the states' constitutions. What we got was a federalism set of restrictions. The states and municipalities could make laws that best suited thier states and towns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Yes. You cannot reasonably base a constitutional opinion on an assertion that case law is wrong just because you do not like it.

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    It has nothing to do with right or wrong. It has to do with constitutional jurisdiction, the purpose of a written constitution, and the Constitution not being a common law document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    It has nothing to do with right or wrong. It has to do with constitutional jurisdiction, the purpose of a written constitution, and the Constitution not being a common law document.
    You have no authority to determine constitutionality under the law.
    Only the SCOTUS has that authority so your opinion is legally meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No it is not, because it is not analogous.


    I do not believe that is a valid constitutional consideration.

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    Again we disagree on constitutional questions that neither of us has authority to decide.
    Equally, members can have their own opinions which have the same legal weight as ours do. (namely..none)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You have no authority to determine constitutionality under the law.
    Only the SCOTUS has that authority so your opinion is legally meaningless.
    I believe I do.

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    The answer is, in the first instance, you teach your child not to hit first. The second thing you teach your child, if someone hits you first, you punch their eye, nose or teeth in. Then they won't touch you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    I believe I do.
    So you admit to being delusional.
    Many Trump supporters are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    We will always disagree on this point, but that is what makes the world go 'round.
    Logical debate is not possible if one debater won't accept truth, facts and reality.
    Cya.

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    Where I grew up, kid would not tell adults, but get a dozen buddies with own sticks and jump the other guy together and pay him back lol

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