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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Since the NRA and supporters of the NRA position on Amendment II is that Amendment II is NOT about a "common defense" where "well regulated Miltia" are necessary to that purpose and want to interpret it as an individual right of defense (which is different than a right to any and every sort of arms that exist), then here's a thought to go along with your response to the stick theory.
    There is nothing in the Second Amendment about "common defense," which is a term used elsewhere in the Constitution (specifically, the Preamble and Art. I, § 8, cl. 1).

    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Let's be literal and let's see this as an individual right to "keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed". "Shall not be infringed" will be literal, meaning NO limitation, whatsoever.
    It does not say that, either. "Shall not be infringed" is not the linguistic equivalent of "shall not be regulated."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    But as a result of this incident we don't then forbid the rest of the population access to sticks, knives and guns.....
    Why can't we law abiding citizens buy nuclear weapons?

    I expect no serious answer to that question as it would blow your whole argument.....so I'll answer it for you:
    Nukes are to dangerous for civilians to possess..
    Nukes have no lawful use in civilian hands

    These same arguments apply to assault rifles and high capacity magazines.
    Last edited by Devil505; 25th February 2018 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    There is nothing in the Second Amendment about "common defense," which is a term used elsewhere in the Constitution (specifically, the Preamble and Art. I, § 8, cl. 1).


    It does not say that, either. "Shall not be infringed" is not the linguistic equivalent of "shall not be regulated."
    More opinions that may or may not be adopted by a future SCOTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    What should adults do?
    Well as a kid, A fellow Student got into a fight. the football coach caught us.. what did he do. Paddle us no, Put is in Detention no call our parents (he did that later),

    What he did was grab us by the shirt drag us to the gym pulled out a mat.. gave us Gloves.. said Go at it.. we went for what seemed like an hour, it was about 45 seconds maybe 2 minutes tops... we got tired.. he said nope, not done yet.

    What came of that.

    David was the best man at my wedding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Nope, now you are trying to pass another "strawman," textbook example.

    Thx
    I have no idea how. The US, UK, and Japan are dissimilar. What works for one, does not automatically work for another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    How many countries are identical to any other country?
    I'll guess 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Well as a kid, A fellow Student got into a fight. the football coach caught us.. what did he do. Paddle us no, Put is in Detention no call our parents (he did that later),

    What he did was grab us by the shirt drag us to the gym pulled out a mat.. gave us Gloves.. said Go at it.. we went for what seemed like an hour, it was about 45 seconds maybe 2 minutes tops... we got tired.. he said nope, not done yet.

    What came of that.

    David was the best man at my wedding.
    If David had an AR15 you and half your class wouldn't still be here to tell that story.

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    I guess this topic with the stick analogy is not as silly as some claim.
    We're having a pretty good debate about gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Why can't we law abiding citizens buy nuclear weapons?

    I expect no serious answer to that question as it would blow your whole argument.....so I'll answer it for you:
    Nukes are to dangerous for civilians to possess..
    Nukes have no lawful use in civilian hands

    These same arguments apply to assault rifles and high capacity magazines.
    Lame leap on your part.

    But your analogy in the OP is still a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Lame leap on your part.
    Checkmate



    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    But your analogy in the OP is still a failure.
    You're still here, right?

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