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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Since we have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, I'd say yes, health care is a right since without proper health care in many instances you can die.
    And a lot of people are dying because they can't afford colonoscopies, mamograms and other screenings.

    The wife and I were discussing that expatriate Americans in Mexico get better and more affordable health care than Americans here. And Mexico is supposed to be a third world country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Well there are small steps that can be done. Canada is the country most similar to ours in that we cover vast amounts of land and are widely spread out. But even they have access problems. Someone who lives up in Hudson Bay pays taxes to have healthcare but may not have a doctor or hospital nearby. There could be ways where govt offers med school for free if they agree to serve time doctoring in communities like that. But its still not a given. Geography would be our biggest problem followed by inequality. Americans have the right to free education but the rich still have better schools. Hospitals would be a lot like that. Excellent doctors may not want to practice in poor areas.
    well, Rome wasn't built in a day. you have an excellent grasp of the situation as it now exists. what would you do to make the situation better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Theoretically.....yes.
    Right now a radical RW minority get to make that decision.
    This country is over 200 years old and not one government in all that time gave us the right to healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    And a lot of people are dying because they can't afford colonoscopies, mamograms and other screenings.

    The wife and I was discussing that expatriates in Mexico get better and more affordable health care than Americans here. And Mexico is supposed to be a third world country.
    Those are free. However if something is found then its a deductible. Surreal experience waking up from a colonoscopy and finding out the good news is you are now okay but the bad news is you owe $25,000 for those polyps that were removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    This country is over 200 years old and not one government in all that time gave us the right to healthcare.
    Damn sad if you ask me.
    Corporate greed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    And a lot of people are dying because they can't afford colonoscopies, mamograms and other screenings.

    The wife and I were discussing that expatriate Americans in Mexico get better and more affordable health care than Americans here. And Mexico is supposed to be a third world country.
    absolutely. we lived there for two years and the medical care was both thorough and affordable. my wife had a complete sonogram (performed by the specialist himself) plus a written report and the pictures to prove his findings - plus the recommended medications for her condition - and the cost was $110 USD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Damn sad if you ask me.
    Corporate greed!
    I doubt corporate greed had anything to do with it in the first 150 years or so. It just wasnt considered here even after countries like Germany had healthcare programs. What does that say about us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    absolutely. we lived there for two years and the medical care was both thorough and affordable. my wife had a complete sonogram (performed by the specialist himself) plus a written report and the pictures to prove his findings - plus the recommended medications for her condition - and the cost was $110 USD.
    Thats because doctors in many other countries have their educations paid for. The govt also picks up the cost of malpractice insurance. In Canada some doctors, clinics etc dont even pay taxes as the govt gives them the property to operate. All those costs add up here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Same thing can be argued about Rolls Royces and homes on Rodeo Drive, LA.
    Mr. Devil,

    so true, just like owning a Rolls Royce and a toney home in a rich area is not a right, neither is Health Care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Since we have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, I'd say yes, health care is a right since without proper health care in many instances you can die.
    Ms. Babba,

    You have all the right to ensure you have proper health care, but forcing someone to provide it to you is not a right.

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