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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Thank you for agreeing with me that HC is a necessity for all of us but a Rolls is a luxury not needed by anyone.
    You Republicns are despicable!
    Mr. Devil,

    You implied that Health Care is along the lines of a Rolls Royce, i.e., if you can afford it, you get the best you can afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    we're talking an entitlement as in social security and medicare - the ones we all contribute to.
    Mr. Bonehead,

    Verses government sponsor healthcare that people who contribute nothing get for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
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    Verses government sponsor healthcare that people who contribute nothing get for free.
    not precisely. many who contribute nothing do so because they cannot. they are a minor portion, but they are just as needy as those who can contribute. all who are able chip in and all get a fair share. is that socialism - of course it is. is it necessary - my opinion is yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    not precisely. many who contribute nothing do so because they cannot. they are a minor portion, but they are just as needy as those who can contribute. all who are able chip in and all get a fair share. is that socialism - of course it is. is it necessary - my opinion is yes.
    Mr. Bonehead,

    Funny, I always heard that "to each according to his need, from each according to his ability" was communism, not socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Bonehead,

    Funny, I always heard that "to each according to his need, from each according to his ability" was communism, not socialism.
    actually, that's a common misconception.

    https://www.diffen.com/difference/Co...m_vs_Socialism
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    actually, that's a common misconception.

    https://www.diffen.com/difference/Co...m_vs_Socialism
    Mr. Bonehead,

    So how do you explain welfare bums who contribute nothing, but still get shit for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Bonehead,

    So how do you explain welfare bums who contribute nothing, but still get shit for free?
    it happens in every society. of course, if you wish to start your own society with restraints that suit you, that is an option. I met a couple who were going to do that in Guatemala, but I never heard from them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. bonehead,

    It already is an entitlement. The trouble is with entitlements is that when you give someone free stuff, they come to think if it as a right.
    Actually, singularly in the context of government spending, the label "entitlement" relates to payment priority. For example, in the event of a government shut down, being considered an "entitlement" mandates that Social Security and Medicare payments must be paid using available funds collected, if borrowings become unavailable. The question then becomes why are they given such designation. Is it because the beneficiaries have made payments over the years, that is, actually have purchased the benefit or are they considered programs to which people have a right to expect from the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    Actually, singularly in the context of government spending, the label "entitlement" relates to payment priority. For example, in the event of a government shut down, being considered an "entitlement" mandates that Social Security and Medicare payments must be paid using available funds collected, if borrowings become unavailable. The question then becomes why are they given such designation. Is it because the beneficiaries have made payments over the years, that is, actually have purchased the benefit or are they considered programs to which people have a right to expect from the government.
    quite correct. for instance, I was working and paying into taxes before the Medicare act was passed. so, that "entitles" me to benefit from the program. but, I did not start paying into SSA before the program was started, yet I still qualify to those benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Its an entitlement unless we decide its a right.

    This stuff aint written in stone.
    No. But it rests on a damn solid foundation.
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