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Thread: In consideration of the divide in this nation regarding gun control which would you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Then we should focus on gun registration - for all guns. Require that gun owners register all of their firearms, and require that all registrations be renewed every two years by bringing the guns to an agency that can certify ownership. Since every gun manfactured (going forward) will have an owner (whether it's the manufacturer, the store, etc.) it becomes very easy to determine the last valid owner of a gun used in a crime. This will drive up the cost of black-market guns, making them unaffordable to most low-level criminals.
    Mr. Djinn,

    Currently, all guns are registered. That's what a background check is. Reregistering the gun might be an idea, but if you require people to bring their guns in, impossible to implement. That is like saying that car owners have to bring their car to DMV every year to prove they still own it, rather than just sending in their registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    prefer to lose.......

    Your child?

    Your gun(s)?

    To many, this is what the divide appears to boil down to. People choosing one, over the other and various facsimiles of the same.

    It would appear some would suggest the shooting of children in their classrooms is a norm that should be tolerated in exchange for their interpretation of a right to keep and bear any arms they choose.

    Feel free to discuss why.

    "loose" in the second question is intended to read "lose".
    Let's remember, we're talking about OTHER PEOPLE'S children. They don't count. That assumes there's some assumption of interdependence between us called "society," and that it requires us to care about others. The central theme of extreme gun rights advocates is that the world, like the jungle, is everyone for himself. As Margaret Thatcher put it so eloquently "They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first." People want all sorts of guns in order to protect themselves and their children. The danger these weapons pose to other people's children is of little matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Let's remember, we're talking about OTHER PEOPLE'S children. They don't count. That assumes there's some assumption of interdependence between us called "society," and that it requires us to care about others. The central theme of extreme gun rights advocates is that the world, like the jungle, is everyone for himself. As Margaret Thatcher put it so eloquently "They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first." People want all sorts of guns in order to protect themselves and their children. The danger these weapons pose to other people's children is of little matter.
    One of the laws of the jungle is that predatory animals can kill another animal's children of the same predatory species and subspecies on order to decrease competition for hunting territory, increase mating opportunities and sometimes as a source of food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    One of the laws of the jungle is that predatory animals can kill another animal's children of the same predatory species and subspecies on order to decrease competition for hunting territory, increase mating opportunities and sometimes as a source of food.
    Ms. Panzareta,

    You say that like it is a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Panzareta,

    You say that like it is a bad thing.
    Indeed he does. You don't think so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Indeed he does. You don't think so?
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Please read "On the Origin of the Species" and get back to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The questions posed are a complex question fallacy.

    Have you stopped shooting your children?
    Yes means the children were shot, but not anymore. No means you are still shooting your children.
    As a society ? That's a definite NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Djinn,

    Currently, all guns are registered. That's what a background check is. Reregistering the gun might be an idea, but if you require people to bring their guns in, impossible to implement. That is like saying that car owners have to bring their car to DMV every year to prove they still own it, rather than just sending in their registration.
    Registered at the federal level. We have unfettered transit between states, so state-level registration is insufficient. And in many states, we DO bring our cars in for inspection every year. I'm saying that gun owners should be required to have each weapon accounted for once every two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Registered at the federal level. We have unfettered transit between states, so state-level registration is insufficient.
    We also have unfettered transit between states with cars, yet state-level registration remains.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    And in many states, we DO bring our cars in for inspection every year.
    States have different rules on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I'm saying that gun owners should be required to have each weapon accounted for once every two years.
    This whole thing would, of course, only work going forward. It would not account for unregistered weapons already in people's possession.
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    Useless/badly worded poll.

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