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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Poll Update: Not a single PH member buys the Deep State paranoia put out by Trump and his corrupt GOP.
    The Conservatives are still sleeping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I know. How dare they report what he actually says and does? It makes him look so bad.
    That's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Are you secretly The Albino Assassin?

    Gosh, NO! Those Opus Dei guys are fanatics! Self-flagellation?!? That's not for us!! We of the Illuminati are free-thinkers!! Da Vinci was one of us! Galileo belonged! Surely you know these things! How did we ever come to have such a nefarious reputation?!? We don't deserve this! We are the good guys! Yes, we've had to topple a government or two or three, on occasion. Yes, we've had to raise money by manipulating markets, from time to time. On VERY rare occasions, we've even had to assassinate prominent political and/or industrial leaders. But they were ALL bad men! Please, and I really do mean this, would you kindly just stop TALKING about us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Doesn't every president have to deal with that, and isn't this part of the reason we only allow presidents to serve two terms?
    I agree that to some limited degree, every new President has to deal with it.

    I do not think every President has tried to set in motion the destruction of the next President in line.

    There is some evidence that this was attempted by the outgoing Obama administration.

    Examples include the unmasking of Trump folks, the dissemination of such intelligence information to Democrats, message coordination with both intelligence agencies and media.

    The gotcha questions to catch Flynn in a lie was a very tangible example.

    None of this proves a massive conspiracy, but the evidence is not negligible.

    And of course, Trump provoked a lot of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    I agree that to some limited degree, every new President has to deal with it.

    I do not think every President has tried to set in motion the destruction of the next President in line.

    There is some evidence that this was attempted by the outgoing Obama administration.

    Examples include the unmasking of Trump folks, the dissemination of such intelligence information to Democrats, message coordination with both intelligence agencies and media.

    The gotcha questions to catch Flynn in a lie was a very tangible example.

    None of this proves a massive conspiracy, but the evidence is not negligible.

    And of course, Trump provoked a lot of this.
    Sounds like normal campaign behavior and investigation questions have become the Deep State in the paranoid minds of the fringe right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
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    How do you define "deep state"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    Sounds like normal campaign behavior and investigation questions have become the Deep State in the paranoid minds of the fringe right.
    I don't think Trump was paranoid enough. He relishes buzz and conflict because it makes for good TV. Not sure if he even cares about Mueller. Perhaps it's just more attention, more buzz.

    When Rosenstien wrote his ridiculous authorization letter Trump should have dealt with the essential inequity of the whole thing.

    I am told that the investigation is actually a counter-intelligence investigation with no actual crime in sight.

    But it looks, to me, like the bureaucracy trying to destroy the interloper .

    Trump dissed the intelligence agencies and now he must pay for his mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    How do you define "deep state"?
    The invisible boogie man invented by the Trump cult that can no longer defend Trump crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idiocracat View Post
    The invisible boogie man invented by the Trump cult that can no longer defend Trump crimes.
    Well, I cannot go quite that far, since it has not yet been demonstrated (certainly not publicly) that Trump has done anything criminal. But the "Deep State" is certainly the TrumpCult™ bogeyman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    But it looks, to me, like the bureaucracy trying to destroy the interloper .

    Trump dissed the intelligence agencies and now he must pay for his mistake.
    Conspiracy-theory twaddle.
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