View Poll Results: Should Failure to secure your guns properly make you liable to the same penalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    As the actual shooter?
    No, I don't think so, but negligence may apply in certain circumstances and there could be penalties applicable in such cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not in that case but if you don't even try to safely store your guns and have a teen with problems you should be more responsible.

    Case by case issue.

    It's not really feasible to write a law with the intention that it should be applied differently on a case by case basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    As the actual shooter?
    Of course not. But most states have "safe storage" laws with their own penalties, which are obviously somewhat less than the death sentence. I support "safe storage" laws, and responsible gun owners will adhere to the principle whether or not such laws are in effect in their home state. Also, "safe storage" laws typically require keeping guns inaccessible to children, but should also apply to mentally ill people who might access them, such as the 20 year old Sandy Hook killer, whose mother was the first victim when he helped himself to her guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It's not really feasible to write a law with the intention that it should be applied differently on a case by case basis.
    Congress writes such laws all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otto Throttle View Post
    Of course not. But most states have "safe storage" laws with their own penalties, which are obviously somewhat less than the death sentence. I support "safe storage" laws, and responsible gun owners will adhere to the principle whether or not such laws are in effect in their home state. Also, "safe storage" laws typically require keeping guns inaccessible to children, but should also apply to mentally ill people who might access them, such as the 20 year old Sandy Hook killer, whose mother was the first victim when he helped himself to her guns.
    Granted it's a complicated issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Congress writes such laws all the time

    Really? Name one.
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    If it’s legal to keep a loaded firearm in your home then there’s no way that you can be criminally charged if something awful happens as a result. That gun was either properly stored or improperly stored from the beginning, you can’t deternine that retroactively.

    The intent of this would be better served by making it a requirement to keep guns locked and secured unless they’re currently in use. As an example, a similar law exists in .... oh shoot I’ve firgitten the name of the country. It starts with an “A”.

    Oh right. “All the countries”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    That was the father of the Waffle House shooter.
    After awhile, they all start blending together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    If it’s legal to keep a loaded firearm in your home then there’s no way that you can be criminally charged if something awful happens as a result. That gun was either properly stored or improperly stored from the beginning, you can’t deternine that retroactively.

    The intent of this would be better served by making it a requirement to keep guns locked and secured unless they’re currently in use. As an example, a similar law exists in .... oh shoot I’ve firgitten the name of the country. It starts with an “A”.

    Oh right. “All the countries”
    How would such a requirement be enforced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Really? Name one.
    practically every law has degrees of affront that are meant to apply a case by case choice to prosecutors.
    Should a man who stumbles onto the WH lawn be charged with the same crime an actually assassin faces?

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