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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
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    Obama was inaugurated in January, 2009. The Dow was at 8200 that week. The day he left office, the dow was at 19700, 129% above the day he came into office.

    Sorry to ruin your premise with actual facts.
    To set the record straight YET AGAIN! What was the lowest point the DJIA hit during Obama's Presidency?

    Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart | MacroTrends

    2007–2009: Bear market. A renewed bear is recognized in summer 2008 and multiple volatility records are set that autumn. Another acute phase in early 2009 brings the index to a new 12 year closing low of 6,547.05, on March 9, 2009, for a total loss of 54% in 17 months. (17 months before March 9, 2007 was what date?)

    3 x 6,547 = 19,641

    January 20, 2017 DJIA = 19,827.25 http://markets.businessinsider.com/n...7-1-1001683234

    2009–Present: Bull market. The Dow remains volatile during its ensuing climb, losing almost 20% during the summers of 2010 and 2011, however, by February 1, 2013, the index finally closes above 14,000 for the first time since October 2007.[12] The Dow continues upward to surpass its prior all-time record on March 5, 2013 and, by the end of 2013, sets a new all-time inflation-adjusted high for the first time since the end of 1999.[13] Despite some significant corrections, the Dow would close above its symbolic level of 20,000 for the first time ever on January 25, 2017 and then 26,000 in less than a year on January 17, 2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    To set the record straight YET AGAIN! What was the lowest point the DJIA hit during Obama's Presidency?

    Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart | MacroTrends

    2007–2009: Bear market. A renewed bear is recognized in summer 2008 and multiple volatility records are set that autumn. Another acute phase in early 2009 brings the index to a new 12 year closing low of 6,547.05, on March 9, 2009, for a total loss of 54% in 17 months. (17 months before March 9, 2007 was what date?)

    3 x 6,547 = 19,641

    January 20, 2017 DJIA = 19,827.25 STOCKS CLIMB: Here's what you need to know | Markets Insider

    2009–Present: Bull market. The Dow remains volatile during its ensuing climb, losing almost 20% during the summers of 2010 and 2011, however, by February 1, 2013, the index finally closes above 14,000 for the first time since October 2007.[12] The Dow continues upward to surpass its prior all-time record on March 5, 2013 and, by the end of 2013, sets a new all-time inflation-adjusted high for the first time since the end of 1999.[13] Despite some significant corrections, the Dow would close above its symbolic level of 20,000 for the first time ever on January 25, 2017 and then 26,000 in less than a year on January 17, 2018
    Mr. Frayed,

    How does that change the fact that the DOW was at 8300 when Obama took office, and 19700 when he left, a 129% change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Leroy,

    Obama was inaugurated in January, 2009. The Dow was at 8200 that week. The day he left office, the dow was at 19700, 129% above the day he came into office.

    Sorry to ruin your premise with actual facts.
    You know that doesn't ruin the fact that the value of the Dow tripled while Obama was president, so why mention it? Are you crediting Obama with stopping the Dow's freefall too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    You know that doesn't ruin the fact that the value of the Dow tripled while Obama was president, so why mention it? Are you crediting Obama with stopping the Dow's freefall too?
    Mr. Stan,

    Actually, it does. The difference between 19700 and 8200 is 11,500. 11,500 is not triple 8200.

    You liberals really aren't that good at numbers, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Stan,

    Actually, it does. The difference between 19700 and 8200 is 11,500. 11,500 is not triple 8200.

    You liberals really aren't that good at numbers, are you?
    And you are aren't that good with sentences. The sentence I believe you were responding to was:

    The stock market more than TRIPLED on Obama's watch.
    You do know that the low point happened on Obama's watch, and if we measure from there to the day he left, it more than tripled. It's a pretty simple concept really. "On his watch" counts the entire time he was president, so if it happened while he was president (and it did), it happened "on his watch".

    Got it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    And you are aren't that good with sentences. The sentence I believe you were responding to was:



    You do know that the low point happened on Obama's watch, and if we measure from there to the day he left, it more than tripled. It's a pretty simple concept really. "On his watch" counts the entire time he was president, so if it happened while he was president (and it did), it happened "on his watch".

    Got it?
    Mr. Stan,

    11,500 is not triple 8200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
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    11,500 is not triple 8200.
    Irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Irrelevant.
    Mr. Stan,

    Irrelevant that those are the exact numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
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    Irrelevant that those are the exact numbers?
    Those are numbers, which are by definition exact. They're irrelevant to the fact that the value of the dow tripled on Obama's watch.
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