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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    What it that makes you believe your President?




    He pays people for influence and to silence them about his deeds, but calls others doing so, the problem. So in his own mind, is it or is it not, a problem when he does it and may still be doing it?

    Why does this man act as if nothing he does is a problem and how does he get away with calling it a problem when other people do it, but exempt himself from his own scrutiny?

    What syndrome, does that fall under?
    If everyone loves him, and he inherited a fortune, and he is the genius he claims, how come he isnt wealthier than he is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    A couple of reasons.

    His energy policy: turn the thermostat down and put on 3 more sweaters.

    Iran gave up the hostages when he left.

    Iran knew that Reagan wouldn't allow them to keep our people.

    Jimmy Carter was a good person, not a good president, too weak.

    Like all presidents, there were good things and bad things.
    Well, at least you provided reasonably coherent answers. I often encounter people who blame Jimmy for the high inflation of the late 1970's......which is frankly ridiculous. I would say he was indecisive rather than saying he was 'weak', and he certainly did not know how to delegate authority. There was a telling moment when it came out that he was even brokering disputes over who got to use the tennis court at what times at the White House. The President has NO business refereeing such TRIVIAL matters. That guy AGED more in his four years in office than any other President I've ever seen. Looked 20 years older when he left the White House just four years after he went in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Well, at least you provided reasonably coherent answers. I often encounter people who blame Jimmy for the high inflation of the late 1970's......which is frankly ridiculous. I would say he was indecisive rather than saying he was 'weak', and he certainly did not know how to delegate authority. There was a telling moment when it came out that he was even brokering disputes over who got to use the tennis court at what times at the White House. The President has NO business refereeing such TRIVIAL matters. That guy AGED more in his four years in office than any other President I've ever seen. Looked 20 years older when he left the White House just four years after he went in.
    ALL presidents look like they age more than their years in office.

    I still think that JC was probably the best PERSON to be president in my lifetime.

    And if he told a lie to protect the military rescue attempt, that's understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    ALL presidents look like they age more than their years in office.

    I still think that JC was probably the best PERSON to be president in my lifetime.

    And if he told a lie to protect the military rescue attempt, that's understandable.
    He did, and it was; and that was the precise point I was making, that sometimes, on rare occasions, it may be NECESSARY for the President to lie, on national security grounds, and Jimmy Carter did so for that reason, and rightly so.

    But Donald Trump is a pathological liar, who lies because he cannot help himself, just like a kleptocrat cannot help but steal. His administration has been a daily assault upon the truth, with more than three thousand documented lies to this point, and that is just counting the lies he has told since his inauguration, giving him Mulligans for all the lies he told BEFORE he took office. Remarkable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    I didn't say, or even imply that "all lies are the same".

    Those are YOUR words.
    Then you didn't answer the question. You want it both ways. You muddy the waters to avoid actually saying anything, but you still want to hear your own voice.
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    They have to know they are riding the tiger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    He did, and it was; and that was the precise point I was making, that sometimes, on rare occasions, it may be NECESSARY for the President to lie, on national security grounds, and Jimmy Carter did so for that reason, and rightly so.

    But Donald Trump is a pathological liar, who lies because he cannot help himself, just like a kleptocrat cannot help but steal. His administration has been a daily assault upon the truth, with more than three thousand documented lies to this point, and that is just counting the lies he has told since his inauguration, giving him Mulligans for all the lies he told BEFORE he took office. Remarkable.
    I don't care for Trump, never supported him.

    But, he's who we got, so I want him to do well.

    Of corpse, there are a few people (Americans) who say he's not their president.

    How crazy is THAT?

    And, he's not the first president who exhibited horrible personal behavior before and during his time in the White House.

    I wanted that other president to do well, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Then you didn't answer the question. You want it both ways. You muddy the waters to avoid actually saying anything, but you still want to hear your own voice.
    They all lie.

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    Looks like Miller voted 'honest broker.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
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    Looks like Miller voted 'honest broker.'
    My voting records are permanently sealed.

    But, you are welcome to speculate all you want.

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