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  • There should be no limit to the amount that society is obligated to pay to extend a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    So, I guess no republicans take a check fro da gub'ment? Oh, when they're on disability, they really need it, unlike those silly marxist libs.
    All sorts of people take checks from the government. What bearing does that have on the conversation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    Some people would burn through that very quickly and our bleeding-heart liberal friends would be right back at their marxist solution trough.
    The better technique would be to research methods to cure disease rather than looking at new and better drugs to address symptoms.

    I was speaking sarcastically...

    Ultimately, people shouldn't be going bankrupt over healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    The third choice is by far the most humane, imho.
    It doesn't sound like you have any clue what you are saying.

    If you are cold and freezing to death on the street, whose fault is that, yours or mine?
    Mine? Yours? That would depend. Are you making the assumption that I would be the one freezing to death? It could happen to you whether or not you believe it. Your insurance could cancel you and you could lose your job. You will be surprised at how busy people suddenly get when YOU need them and not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    All sorts of people take checks from the government. What bearing does that have on the conversation?
    I'm going off your poll. It's not very specific. We are talking about welfare, e. g. the government teat, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post

    Ultimately, people shouldn't be going bankrupt over healthcare.
    Agreed. I think we all can agree on that. The question is how to bring down costs. I'm of the opinion that insurance and government getting between the doctor and patient disable the natural price leveling of the free market. Of course, the insanely high cost of education and liability insurance forther complicate matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    I'm going off your poll. It's not very specific. We are talking about welfare, e. g. the government teat, no?
    It doesn't have to be government. Just our society in general. Do you think society should be compelled to spend an unlimited amount extending a life or should there be some sort of agreed upon limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post

    Mine? Yours? That would depend. Are you making the assumption that I would be the one freezing to death? It could happen to you whether or not you believe it. Your insurance could cancel you and you could lose your job. You will be surprised at how busy people suddenly get when YOU need them and not the other way around.
    We could make up hypothetical situations all day long and get nowhere.
    I'm responsible for my own life.
    Are you responsible for yours?
    Isn't everyone? ...well, adults, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    It doesn't have to be government. Just our society in general. Do you think society should be compelled to spend an unlimited amount extending a life or should there be some sort of agreed upon limit?
    Your question makes no sense. Of course there is a point where society should not pay for every possible thing that could help you live longer, but why would you want the government making that choice? Also, are you talking about limits to medical insurance? Great, we can just let these uninsured people go back to being treated at the ER and handing the tax payers the final bill.

    It's like some people are willfully ignorant to medical insurance and how this calamity was propounded in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    We could make up hypothetical situations all day long and get nowhere.
    I'm responsible for my own life.
    Are you responsible for yours?
    Isn't everyone? ...well, adults, at least.
    I dunno.....what did Jesus tell you to do? What does your conscience tell you? If someone in my family falls ill, I do what I can. Not everyone has that type of willingness to be selfless, though. In fact, most people nowadays are rather self-centered.

    You're responsible for your own life? What exactly does that mean? You live in a community and presumably, that community is inter-dependent upon each of its members. It's been like that since before there were humans....before there were animals.
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    We should have universal health care like every other industrialized nation on earth. No one should die from the disease of being too poor to pay. Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
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