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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Your comment makes absolutely no sense.

    But ok.
    It would have been more accurate to have said that he exploits them by claiming credit, but the meaning is still pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Pretty sure the numbers don't come from the oval office.

    How exactly did Trump manipulate them....??
    The same way Obama did, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I don't for a minute.
    More lies from a conman in charge of conjuring up those numbers.
    Mr. Devil,

    I believe the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the booming stock market, the building boom all around me, the increase in the price of my house, fast food restaurants in my area having to pay $18/hour because they can't find anybody to work, the nice pay raise I got this year, and businesses full because everybody has money to spend.

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    The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics [the BLS], which is part of the Department of Commerce. The people working for the BLS are pretty much the same folks who were working there during the Obama administration. There has NOT been a great deal of turnover. These are NOT considered to be 'political appointees'. They are technocrats. The people who put these statistics together tend to be highly trained economists, statisticians, accountants, and have often worked in these positions for DECADES, for both Republican and Democratic administrations. Quite often, they are highly apolitical. Quite often, they are people who were attracted into this profession because they had a genuine scientific interest in the measurement of the economy.


    Measuring macroeconomic variables such as unemployment, inflation, and GDP is actually HARD. The numbers should not be taken as GOSPEL. But the American public should generally rest assured that the people putting the data together are doing the best they can to present an accurate picture and portrayal of the American economy. There is no reason to go chasing after wild conspiracy theories, saying that the government is LYING to us about the current state of the economy, or lying to us about the unemployment rate, or about the inflation rate, or anything of the sort.


    It was actually SHAMEFUL that Donald Trump was doing so all throughout his campaign, when he was traipsing around the country, claiming that the 'true' unemployment rate was anywhere up to 40% (in some of his more outlandish statements), which would have been worse than anything we saw even during the Great Depression of the 1930s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Devil,

    I believe the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the booming stock market, the building boom all around me, the increase in the price of my house, fast food restaurants in my area having to pay $18/hour because they can't find anybody to work, the nice pay raise I got this year, and businesses full because everybody has money to spend.
    The more interesting question, Kallie, is whether you believed Donald Trump in the summer of 2016, when he was trying to tell you that the 'real' unemployment rate in this country was something like 40%.

    Did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    The more interesting question, Kallie, is whether you believed Donald Trump in the summer of 2016, when he was trying to tell you that the 'real' unemployment rate in this country was something like 40%.

    Did you?
    Mr. Leroy,

    Why the irrelevant non sequitur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Leroy,

    Why the irrelevant non sequitur?
    In other words, whatever is expedient at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    In other words, whatever is expedient at the moment.
    Mr. labrea,

    In other words, it is irrelevant to the discussion, ergo, an dishonest attempt to change the debate.

    Kinda what you often do, wot?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Trump is taking credit for a downward trend in unemployment that has been underway for almost a decade, and he's bragging about the same unemployment numbers that he called "fake" while he was campaigning. He insisted then that the "real" unemployment rate might be as high as 40%.

    It's disingenuous, at best.
    Well, he's Trump, so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. labrea,

    In other words, it is irrelevant to the discussion, ergo, an dishonest attempt to change the debate.

    Kinda what you often do, wot?...
    An honest response to your off topic post.

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