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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Especially considering the truthiness and alternative facts that emanate from this administration.
    And this is different than what the fake news industry has been pumping out for the past 2 years.... how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Politics was already polarized before Trump became elected. Civil discourse had been an oxymoron for a while. That said, he has done little to ameliorate our country’s divisions.

    IMO
    I have lived through a lot of Presidential Elections. Never have I seen one so vicious and mean...

    Now Trump and his cut throats are getting worse each day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I have lived through a lot of Presidential Elections. Never have I seen one so vicious and mean...

    Now Trump and his cut throats are getting worse each day!
    Take 10 minutes out to study what David Brock has been doing the past 20 years.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/real-david-brock/

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...707-story.html
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    Devil, you have a pretty one sided vote there. Does that vote prove how many sane ones are around?

    Or, are the crazies afraid to admit it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Devil, you have a pretty one sided vote there. Does that vote prove how many sane ones are around?

    Or, are the crazies afraid to admit it?
    The right, the left and the Russians are using the exact same techniques to influence elections. The idea that the Russians are polluting our virginal politics is woefully misinformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I have lived through a lot of Presidential Elections. Never have I seen one so vicious and mean...

    Now Trump and his cut throats are getting worse each day!
    No argument from me. His Machiavellian style has and will be the signature of his Presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    The right, the left and the Russians are using the exact same techniques to influence elections. The idea that the Russians are polluting our virginal politics is woefully misinformed.
    it's perfectly OK that the Russians are undermining confidence in our elections and that the current POTUS is playing along with them. Nothing to see here, folks, because after all, Obama, Hillary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    it's perfectly OK that the Russians are undermining confidence in our elections and that the current POTUS is playing along with them. Nothing to see here, folks, because after all, Obama, Hillary!
    Both political parties are engaged in the same things the Russians were doing. After all, Trump, Obama, Hillary, Soros, Koch brothers, Media Matters, Breitbart, MSNBC, Morning Joe, Fox and Friends, the 5.

    We are a nation of propaganda.

    If you think the Russians started this, you need to think again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    And this is different than what the fake news industry has been pumping out for the past 2 years.... how?
    Merely having bias is not "fake news." The media has not done anything differently in recent years. The problem is that the term "fake news" was coined by the extreme right to describe any news organization that does not have an extreme-right bias, which is itself dishonest and fake news.

    Furthermore, this administration has been defining as "fake news" anything that not only accurately represents what it has said, but points out where it has contradicted itself. The reality is that the White House has become inherently dishonest and untrustworthy, and is the very epitome of post-truth politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    No argument from me. His Machiavellian style has and will be the signature of his Presidency.
    Actually, I think it will be difficult to tell what the signature of his presidency will be considered to be, since nobody knows what is really going on there, anyway.

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