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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Assuming this goes on, so what? If one or two posters are getting paid to put certain POVs across, so what?

    It's not even against the TOS, as far as I can tell.

    I can happily debate anyone who supports Putin sincerely.

    I'd like to think I can make lunch meat out of any paid poster pushing his ideas.
    What pro Putin ideas are being pushed here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Assuming this goes on, so what? If one or two posters are getting paid to put certain POVs across, so what?
    Are you joking?
    It's a federal crime for foreign powers to interfere with our elections!

    It's fine for citizens/individuals to post their opinions but when an unfriendly nation like Russia clandestinely spends millions to disrupt our elections, sow mistrust of democracy and get a puppet President to shun old allies while praising tyrant enemies.....that's state sponsored terrorism and an actual act of war!
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    There are many out pushing socialist ideas. Do I think they are Russian stooges, no just fools. How many are out pushing Critical Theory , lots. Who is out pushing open borders, mass third world immigration, cultural erosion. The Bernie crowd is quite open. Is Bernie a Russian agent? He has plenty of followers. The state is the master and provider.
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    A candidate for President in most states, wins all the Electoral College available in their party, merely by winning a plurality, NOT a majority of the votes in those states. In other words, if someone one by one vote and that was reconfirmed via a recount, they would get ALL the Electoral College votes for that state, thus every single vote counts and for the EC, it does NOT have to be a "landslide" victory to get ALL the votes for one state, which added together with the EC votes only need amount to a majority of the total EC votes in any one election.

    Conceivably one could win four of the states with the largest number of EC winner take all votes and win the Electoral College majority and the Presidential election by 4 votes (winning by a single vote in each of those 4 states or conceivably, win all the states by a single vote, making the EC win, a matter of only 50 votes, to gain almost all the EC electorate votes.

    This is why trolling does not have to "catch" a whole lot of Americans in the "net" of believing the BS.......all they need are "just enough" to push over the line for the win, so every political forum, at a certain level and every social media site at a certain level and above would be worthwhile to shower and if you are at it all day long, how hard is it to circulate to 50 sites in a few hours?

    America needs to put on its thinking cap.

    Some are pushing the idea that there are "many" pushing ideas that nobody is really pushing, but them, when they claim people "want open borders" and are pro-abortion" .......and all kinds of other bull crap that they are making up as people "pushing".

    The irony is, many trolls are trying to push the idea that "socialists" (equating to communists) are at America's front doorstep, knowing that the NAZIS hated communists, with a passion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    What pro Putin ideas are being pushed here?
    Getting their puppet.....Trump....to sow mistrust of our allies while praising a murderer/tyrant is treason in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    The shotgun-effect doesn't work in this case. Over-saturation is too easy to detect - certainly moreso these days. Also, PH is not the target for these types of things since we take stories from the web, bring them here and discuss / investigate them ourselves. The targets for these bots is places people frequent - top-end social media.

    Ultimately, any new member is heavily scrutinized here, it would be so obvious.
    Disagreed.
    A low-paid clerk in the Kremlin could be assigned to easily spread lies and anti-democratic (small d) in every forum at practically no cost or risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Ok but wouldnt they need to be paid? If so the IRS or other taxing country would know about that I would assume.
    You assume if they do get paid, they're within us borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Disagreed.
    A low-paid clerk in the Kremlin could be assigned to easily spread lies and anti-democratic (small d) in every forum at practically no cost or risk.
    You know what? If voters here in the US are that influenced and stupid, they get what they deserve. Russia supposedly has been attempting to influence all other elections too and yet they dont seem to be dumb. We get what we deserve because the only way to stop this is to essentially shut down the internet and get rid of all the anonymity. Dark ages stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    What pro Putin ideas are being pushed here?
    It doesnt have to be pro putin, just undermining Americans belief in the integrity of our system, and institutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    It doesnt have to be pro putin, just undermining Americans belief in the integrity of our system, and institutions.
    Thats been going on for a long time, Occupy Wall Street was all about mistrusting our banks and big pharma. Showing the corruption. Many of these institutions get what they sow. Look at how people are saying how bad law enforcement is. Thats not Russia, thats on them and their optics. I just think Americans are changing their perceptions.

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