View Poll Results: How mang guns has the government taken from you since 2009?

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    51 57.95%
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    Veteran Member Dutch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    What do you think about the tactic of Republicans dancing a 2 second jig before crossing a street? I don't know if it ever happens, but it might, and you could still have an opinion about it.

    I prefer to reserve making an opinion about something until I there is a reason to. Do you have a link of this happening?
    I provided one earlier in this thread. Haven't you been paying attention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Well naturaly a Navy Chief is not as important as a Marine NCO. But i understand they are used to give orders to paint-scrapers and so forth.
    USMC, hardest working branch in the military. Awesome paint scrapers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I provided one earlier in this thread. Haven't you been paying attention?
    You mean "Obama Pushing Shooters Off Public Lands", right?

    Obama Pushing Shooters Off Public Lands - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

    I read the story... and no where did I see President Obama directing this.

    "It's not so much a safety issue. It's a social conflict issue," said Frank Jenks, a natural resource specialist with Interior's Bureau of Land Management, which oversees 245 million acres.
    So is this Frank guy appointed by President Obama? Did he receieve some instruction from President Obama to do this? Or is it just that the author pinning something on the President to manufacture something to complain about?

    I shoot on public land, so I'd be against a complete ban, but I would support some sort of regulation, because when the article says:

    "When the authorized officer determines that a site or area on BLM-managed lands used on a regular basis for recreational shooting is creating public disturbance, or is creating risk to other persons on public lands; is contributing to the defacement, removal or destruction of natural features, native plants, cultural resources, historic structures or government and/or private property; is facilitating or creating a condition of littering, refuse accumulation and abandoned personal property is violating existing use restrictions, closure and restriction orders, or supplementary rules notices, and reasonable attempts to reduce or eliminate the violations by the BLM have been unsuccessful, the authorized officer will close the affected area to recreational shooting."
    That actually sounds fair. I have seen plenty of littering and it should be against regulation for jerks to bring old TVs up to the mountains and blowing them to hell, leaving a bunch of toxic crap all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    What do you think about the tactic of Republicans dancing a 2 second jig before crossing a street? I don't know if it ever happens, but it might, and you could still have an opinion about it.

    I prefer to reserve making an opinion about something until I there is a reason to. Do you have a link of this happening?
    Sounds like the NRA is rolling out its Spring/2012 advertising campaign:

    "Buy your guns NOW because Obama is gonna take them by decree!.......HURRY!" (supplies are limited)

    (anyone wonder why the GOP hates education?)
    Last edited by Devil505; 29th March 2012 at 02:50 AM.

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    And in this thread we see a perfect example of the right and their developmental issues. Dualistic thinking is the sign of someone with the developmental maturity of a six year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    I actually am a Reservist... that's why I'm in Pearl Harbor right now. but I also work for the Navy (indirectly) as a civilian, so I'm working often from the base in Port Hueneme. Ironically, starting this year I'll see more ship time as a civilian than as a military man. :P
    Well be careful walking through the doors on those big boats, ya gotta duck or you will bang that huge head you are carrying around. Don't want a bunch of bruises on that shinny head of yours.

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    none.. but then none of my guns are registered so nobody " official" knows I have any.. so I don't care what kind of restriction they come up with.. its not like I am gonna buy any more for a while and when and if I do it will be from a private individual, and again not registered..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
    none.. but then none of my guns are registered so nobody " official" knows I have any.. so I don't care what kind of restriction they come up with.. its not like I am gonna buy any more for a while and when and if I do it will be from a private individual, and again not registered..
    Hmm....Do you register your car? (if so...has it been confiscated yet?)

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    Buying a gun illegally is a lot easier than getting permission to legally carry one.

    NYPD - Permits

    Permits | Handgun Licensing Information




    THE LICENSE DIVISION IS OPEN TO SUBMIT NEW APPLICATIONS UNTIL 8:00 PM ON MONDAYS.
    Applicants must arrive at 1 Police Plaza or the Rifle/Shotgun Section, 120-55 Queens Boulevard, Kew Gardens, early enough for processing to be completed by 8:00 PM. The amount of time needed to process an application varies by situation, but averages approximately 45 minutes. Please review instructions for items needed before submitting your application.





    The License Division
    Types of Licenses
    Handgun License Consulting Firms [New]
    Instructions to all Handgun License Applicants
    Fees Note: License Division is now accepting credit card payments for new applications and fingerprint fees.

    Download Instructions to All Handgun License Applicants (PDF)


    The License Division


    The License Division receives many inquiries from the public regarding the procedures involved in obtaining a permit for a handgun. Because of the serious safety concerns inherent in the possession of handguns, it is recommended that the decision to obtain a handgun license be carefully considered and that a licensee receive training in the safety and use of a handgun. Licensees must become familiar with all laws and regulations relating to handgun ownership. The following sections provide information in order to assist persons who wish to apply for a handgun license. They do not in any way imply that a license application will be approved.

    The following pages have been prepared as a guide to assist you in deciding which type of handgun license may be appropriate for you. If you decide to apply for a license you must APPEAR IN PERSON at the License Division with the completed application, the documents specified in the application instructions, the application fee, and the fingerprint fee. These are the only fees you are required to pay to have your application processed. The fees may be paid by credit card or in the form of two U.S. POSTAL OR BANK-DRAWN MONEY ORDERS, made payable to the New York City Police Department, CASH IS NOT ACCEPTED. Make sure that you save the receipt for your application fee given to you by the cashier. This receipt is proof of payment and contains your application number, which is required for any subsequent inquiries regarding the status of your application.

    If you intend to apply for a license related to your employment, profession, or business, you may ask to speak to an application reviewer who will screen your application and documents, and will assist you in determining the type of license you appear to be eligible for. Whether or not you choose to have your application screened by a reviewer, you will have to provide the documentation specified in the application instructions at the time of application submission.

    After you file your application you will be contacted for an interview and may be required to submit additional documentation. All documents will be examined and evaluated, and all factors will be considered in making the determination as to your qualification for an employment, profession, or business related license.

    Regardless of the reviewer's recommendation, you may apply for whichever type of license you choose. The screening process is merely an attempt to assist you, and does not affect the final decision regarding your application. You must be twenty-one (21) years of age to apply for a handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit.


    Types of Licenses



    PREMISES LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. It is issued for your RESIDENCE or BUSINESS. The Licensee may possess a handgun ONLY on the premises of the address indicated on the front of the license. Licensees may also transport their handguns and ammunition in SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINERS, DIRECTLY to and from an authorized range, or hunting location. HANDGUNS MUST BE UNLOADED while being transported.

    CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: This is an unrestricted class of license which permits the carrying of a handgun concealed on the person. It is valid for the business name, address, and handguns listed on the front of the license. It is not transferable to any other person, business, occupation, or address, without the written approval of the commanding officer, license division.

    LIMITED CARRY BUSINESS LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. The licensee may only carry handguns indicated on the license in accordance with the specific limitations listed thereon. At all other times the weapon must be safeguarded within the confines of the business address listed on the front of the license either concealed on the licensee's person in a proper holster or stored unloaded in a locked safe.

    SPECIAL CARRY LICENSE: Is valid for the business name, address and handguns listed on the front of this license, only while the licensee has in his possession a valid basic county license issued according to the provisions of article 400 of the N.Y.S. Penal law. Upon the revocation, suspension, or cancellation of the basic license, the special license is rendered void and must be immediately returned to the license division.

    CARRY GUARD LICENSE: (SECURITY GUARDS, ETC.) Applications for this type of license must be made with the documentation provided by a company's Gun Custodian. It is issued only for the handgun listed on the license. The handgun may be carried only while the licensee is actively engaged in employment for the company whose name appears on the license, and/or while licensee is in transit directly to or from residence and place of employment. At all other times the handgun must be stored unloaded in a locked container, at either the address on the license, or at the employee's legal residence (within the State of New York).



    Handgun License Consulting Firms



    The License Division is aware that there are consulting companies which guarantee the issuance of a New York City handgun license or rifle and shotgun permit if a prospective applicant uses their services to complete the application form. These firms cannot obtain a handgun license or rifle and shotgun permit for you if you do not qualify, nor can they expedite your application. As an applicant, you should be aware that such services are not required or endorsed by the New York City Police Department and that only an attorney licensed by the State of New York can represent you before the License Division. You should also understand that any fees you pay to a consulting firm are in addition to those required by law and collected by the License Division. The License Division does not guarantee the issuance of a handgun license or rifle and shotgun permit to any individual who uses the services of a consultant. Each application is reviewed on its merits and under the qualifying criteria set forth by law. The application instructions are self-explanatory and form-fillable applications are available free of charge on our website [Click here for link to forms page].



    Instructions to all Handgun License Applicants



    The application form MUST be typewritten and signed by you, and your signature must be notarized. Only the original application form will be accepted. DO NOT SEND A PHOTOCOPY. The application form must be completely filled out and presented by you personally at the License Division. At the time you submit your application, you must furnish the items listed below that are applicable to you. All documents, certificates, licenses, etc., must be submitted in the original. (A copy certified by the issuing agency as true and complete is also acceptable). In addition, a legible photocopy of each item submitted must accompany the original or certified copy. Originals and certified copies will be returned. Your application will not be accepted without the required documents.

    1. Photographs: Two (2) color photographs of you taken within the past thirty (30) days are required. They should measure 1 x 1 inches and show you from the chest up. The wearing of any article of clothing or adornment that obscures identification is not permitted.

    2. Birth Certificate: In lieu of your birth certificate, some other proof of your birth date, e.g., a military record, U.S. passport or baptismal certificate must be submitted. You must be twenty-one (21) years of age to apply for a handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit.

    3. Proof of Citizenship/Alien Registration: If you were born outside the United States, you must submit your naturalization papers or evidence of citizenship if derived from your parents. All other applicants born outside the United States must submit their Alien Registration Card. If you have lived in this country less than 7 years you must submit a good conduct certificate, or equivalent, from your country of origin and two (2) letters of reference that certify to your good character.

    4. Military Discharge: If you served in the armed forces of the United States, you must submit your separation papers (DD 214) and your discharge.

    5. Proof of Residence: You must submit proof of your present address. Proof may consist of, but is not limited to, a real estate tax bill, ownership shares in a cooperative or condominium, or a lease. You may also be requested to supply further documentation i.e., a New York State Driver's License, a New York State Income Tax Return, or a current utility bill.

    6. Arrest Information: If you were ever arrested, indicted or summonsed for any reason, other than a parking violation, you must answer "Yes" to question #23 on the handgun license application and submit a certificate of disposition showing the offense and disposition. Also, you must submit a detailed, notarized statement describing the circumstances surrounding each arrest or summons. YOU MUST DO THIS EVEN IF: the case was dismissed, the record was sealed or the case was nullified by operation of law. The New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services will report to us every instance involving the criminal prosecution of an applicant. DO NOT rely on anyone's representation that you need not list a previous arrest or summons.

    If you were ever convicted or pled guilty to a felony offense or a serious offense, as defined in Penal Law Section 265.00(17), an original Certificate of Relief of Disabilities, signed by a judge, must be submitted.

    6a. Order of Protection: If you have ever had an Order of Protection issued against you, or issued on your behalf against anyone, you must list the following information: Court of Issuance, Date of Issuance, Complainant's name, address and phone number, Complainant's relationship to you, and reason for issuance of Order of Protection.

    7. Proof of Business Ownership: If you are making application for a carry or premises license for use in connection with a business, you must submit proof of ownership for that business. Such proof must clearly state the names of the owner(s), or, if a corporation, the names of the corporate officers. A Corporation must submit its corporate book to include filing receipt, certificate of incorporation and minutes of the corporate meeting reflecting current corporate officers; others must provide their business certificate or partnership agreement, whichever is applicable. If the business requires a license or permit from any government agency, e.g., alcohol or firearms sales, gunsmith, private investigation and guard agencies, you must submit the license or permit or a certified copy thereof. You must also submit proof of address for the business. Proof may consist of a utility bill, not more than 60 days old, in the name of the business or a lease in the name of the business.

    8. Letter of Necessity: All applicants for a carry license and those seeking a premises license for use in connection with their employment MUST complete the Letter of Necessity found on page 3 of the application. NO SUBSTITUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED.

    9. Social Security Card: All persons filing applications must bring their original Social Security cards with them to the License Division when applying for a license.



    Fees



    The application fee is $340.00.

    Please note that effective March 19, 2012, the fingerprint fee is $91.50 for all applicants.

    These fees may be paid by credit card or by two separate money orders made payable to the New York City Police Department.

    ALL FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE

    If you have any questions concerning your application, please call (646) 610-5560. Applications must submitted in person at the License Division, 1 Police Plaza, Room 110, or the Rifle and Shotgun Section, 120-55 Queens Boulevard, Room B-11, Kew Gardens, NY. You may submit your application between the hours of 8:30 a.m. until 8:00 p.m on Monday, and Tuesday through Friday from 8:30 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. It takes approximately 45 minutes to process an application. Please arrive early enough to complete the application process by closing time.

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    Yea, NY is kooky about getting a permit. A friend of mine took 8 months to get his. Crazy. I got mine in 5 minutes.

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