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    hereyago

    plato's beliefs

    Plato believes that we're living in the world of images and shadows and that the "real" world exists elsewhere.

    I think that's total bs. He's just making stuff up because he can't seem to function in OUR real world.

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    Ausinus

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by hereyago View Post
    Plato believes that we're living in the world of images and shadows and that the "real" world exists elsewhere.

    I think that's total bs. He's just making stuff up because he can't seem to function in OUR real world.
    Come off it, he was trying to explain the reason for commonality between types of things, and the reason why things adapt. Its a precursor to Darwinism in some ways.

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    ChristopherSly

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Well, if you don't count the shift between orality and literacy, yes, that's what he was about . . .

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    Zarathustra

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Dont dismiss things as bullshit because they are a bit different and unique. Examine the view for it's merits, and fallacies before passing a judgement. For all you know, maybe this world IS an illusion. I happen to not think so for several reasons but Im just giving an example...

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    kingrat

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by hereyago View Post
    Plato believes that we're living in the world of images and shadows and that the "real" world exists elsewhere.

    I think that's total bs. He's just making stuff up because he can't seem to function in OUR real world.
    Not at all.

    The material world may be known only through the sense, hence knowledge of it is relative. Therefore, the material world has only a fluid or ephemeral existence.

    Ideas, on the other hand, are immutable. In this immutability, real existence resides.

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    kingrat

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausinus View Post
    Come off it, he was trying to explain the reason for commonality between types of things, and the reason why things adapt. Its a precursor to Darwinism in some ways.
    I think aristotle is the more correct precursor to darwinism than plato. He is the father of the natural sciences, after all.

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    InspectorMorse

    Re: plato's beliefs

    I suppose the forms could be likened to archetypes.

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    Feslin

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Plato believes that we're living in the world of images and shadows and that the "real" world exists elsewhere.
    With what evidence?

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    InspectorMorse

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by Feslin View Post
    With what evidence?
    Philosophy does not require evidence - thats what differentiates it from Science.

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    Feslin

    Re: plato's beliefs

    Quote Originally Posted by InspectorMorse View Post
    Philosophy does not require evidence - thats what differentiates it from Science.
    Philosophy DOES require evidence. It's the art of thinking, and you can't think without evidence.

    After all, you can't think without nothing.

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