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    Random chance vs "God's will"...how do you spot the "difference?"

    I mean besides subjectivity or assigning ONLY the good or positive occurances and events to God....the bad or negative occurances to "Nature" "Free Will" or even "Adam's Fall"?

    For instance, I find a $20 on the sidewalk (with nobody around for blocks)....is that random chance or God's will?


    I come down with the flu right before a big job interview and miss it.....is that random chance or God's will?


    A massive tornado misses the town of Podunkville, Kansas and only tears up some empty pasture land.....is that random chance or God's will?


    I'm bored on a rainy Sunday afternoon and TCM just happens to show one of my favorite movies.....is that random chance or God's will?
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    It's entirely subjective. But that does not mean it's invaluable. If you are looking for signs from God and open to what happens, you just might be a better listener, observer and attentive companion, even if your interpretation is wrong.

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    As there is no god all that leaves is chance. I find money all the time, too bad it is only a penny here and a nickel there. All that means is someone is to lazy or has no value assigned to a nickel or penny lesser than bending down and picking it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    I mean besides subjectivity or assigning ONLY the good or positive occurances and events to God....the bad or negative occurances to "Nature" "Free Will" or even "Adam's Fall"?

    For instance, I find a $20 on the sidewalk (with nobody around for blocks)....is that random chance or God's will?


    I come down with the flu right before a big job interview and miss it.....is that random chance or God's will?


    A massive tornado misses the town of Podunkville, Kansas and only tears up some empty pasture land.....is that random chance or God's will?


    I'm bored on a rainy Sunday afternoon and TCM just happens to show one of my favorite movies.....is that random chance or God's will?
    Mr. Gecko,

    There is no random chance, so it is easy to tell the difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Gecko,

    There is no random chance, so it is easy to tell the difference...
    What? So God micro manages everything that ever happens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    I mean besides subjectivity or assigning ONLY the good or positive occurances and events to God....the bad or negative occurances to "Nature" "Free Will" or even "Adam's Fall"?

    For instance, I find a $20 on the sidewalk (with nobody around for blocks)....is that random chance or God's will?


    I come down with the flu right before a big job interview and miss it.....is that random chance or God's will?


    A massive tornado misses the town of Podunkville, Kansas and only tears up some empty pasture land.....is that random chance or God's will?


    I'm bored on a rainy Sunday afternoon and TCM just happens to show one of my favorite movies.....is that random chance or God's will?
    A random event is merely an event that has no discernible pattern, hence unpredictable. However, over a sufficiently large range of events, the frequency of an individual event follows a probability field. What might seem like an individual 'random' occurrence to you is actually just part of a larger, discernible pattern.

    When people talk about divine will, it usually pertains to a much larger, overall design--your individual event merely a very small part of that design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    A random event is merely an event that has no discernible pattern, hence unpredictable. However, over a sufficiently large range of events, the frequency of an individual event follows a probability field. What might seem like an individual 'random' occurrence to you is actually just part of a larger, discernible pattern.

    When people talk about divine will, it usually pertains to a much larger, overall design--your individual event merely a very small part of that design.
    In other words, merely the laws of physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    It's entirely subjective. But that does not mean it's invaluable. If you are looking for signs from God and open to what happens, you just might be a better listener, observer and attentive companion, even if your interpretation is wrong.
    Metaphysical balderdash. Nature, and our experiences in it, work as if there is no god or gods whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Gecko,

    There is no random chance, so it is easy to tell the difference...
    This is one of the most inane things I have ever read.

    No such thing as random chance? What utter poppycock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Gecko,

    There is no random chance, so it is easy to tell the difference...
    So everything BAD that happens...is God's fault....same as everything good that happens...He gets the credit?

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