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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    But what if you invented a small single cell organism that would, given a couple billion years on a planet similar to earth, multiply and evolve into the entire cornucopia of life we have here?

    You'd probably be the most honored of all scientific geniuses, even if we knew that some of the descendants of that organism would end up being diseases that killed off millions of other descendants.
    So you are suggesting that the Creator of the universe has no more power over it's creation than would a mere human? Rather flies in the face of that whole omnipotence thing, doncha think?



    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Well I kind of disagree with this part too. I don't think it's evil to kill if the killing will prevent a larger more destructive killing later on. If I'm driving along the road and I see someone on the sidewalk pull out a gun and start shooting into a restaurant, it is not evil for me to swerve onto the sidewalk and flatten him. Of course there would be a pretty damned high burden of proof to justify killing millions with a disease, but I don't think killing is necessarily evil. Even the notion of evil is kind of superstitious. Either it's justified or it isn't.
    Which would be a brilliant observation were the diseases in the OP discriminatory, and only affected murderers, rapists, sociopaths, and criminals. However, since they do not, your "some killing isn't evil" argument is irrelevant.

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    Even worse than homophobia.
    Eh, thanks????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Thinking that God is more than nature is what has caused most of the wars to date, since the majority have blamed belief of such for quite a while now.

    Those same mainstream religions are responsible for the homophobia and misogyny that still plagues us.

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    Religion has its place in society. Without the belief in a higher, judgmental power, many would live lives of total abandon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    Religion has its place in society. Without the belief in a higher, judgmental power, many would live lives of total abandon.
    And yet, we don't see that happen in the people who reject the idea of religion. Perhaps this is one of those "factoids" that people insist on believing without any evidence. You need faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Disease that is associated with age, and death is just part of the system as it is "designed". Us killing each other is entirely on us. However, the countless viruses, bacteria, and other organisms which only serve to fatally interrupt the natural process if life? Well, the responsibility for those rest squarely on the designer. If I would be considered evil for such a design, then the same must also be said for God, if God exists.


    In what way do you see a difference? Either creating, and releasing such an organism is evil, or it isn't. How is it different because it's "God"?

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    Pretty simple, if you ask me.. IF god were to exist, he also would have been the one who defined what is evil, and what is not. so it's within his power, to also exclude himself from evil doing, and having a reason for it. By his own definition, any of his godly work would never be evil, yet a human trying to "play" god, would do the devil's work, which is evil.

    That's the fun and joy of being the almighty, you make the rules, and play as you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    And yet, we don't see that happen in the people who reject the idea of religion. Perhaps this is one of those "factoids" that people insist on believing without any evidence. You need faith.
    Communism rejects religion, and it kills millions upon millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    Religion has its place in society. Without the belief in a higher, judgmental power, many would live lives of total abandon.
    Hogwash. Proof is in the stats of these links.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdtwTeBPYQA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94f2...layer_embedded


    Few follow the laws of God and most follow the law of the land.

    Thank God for that or we would have even more wars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    Pretty simple, if you ask me.. IF god were to exist, he also would have been the one who defined what is evil, and what is not. so it's within his power, to also exclude himself from evil doing, and having a reason for it. By his own definition, any of his godly work would never be evil, yet a human trying to "play" god, would do the devil's work, which is evil.

    That's the fun and joy of being the almighty, you make the rules, and play as you wish.
    Sooo..."it's not illegal when the president does it,"? Really?!?! That self-justifying logic didn't work for Nixon, why should it work for God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    Communism rejects religion, and it kills millions upon millions.
    The Islamic Theocracies of the Middle Est do not reject religion, and so do they. What? That's "different"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    Communism rejects religion, and it kills millions upon millions.
    Irrelevant. Religion accepts religion and it kills millions upon millions more. Also, if by communism you mean "Stalinist Russia" then that communism was itself a religion, so fail again.

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