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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Okay. So, now that we have established that this would be evil if I did this, and considering the theist position that God is the Creator, and author of all of nature, ease explain malaria.

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    I see, so your insinuation is that god must be evil too. Although there is plenty of evidence that proves this it does not necessarily mean that he is evil for creating malaria. It could have been a simple fuck up on his part and he never meant for it kill people. Or it could have been harmless when he created it and evolution either caused it to become toxic, or man has evolved to become more susceptible to it. If he truly were all good why did he have to make everybody die? Or why didn't he make everyone just die in their sleep without pain? I think if he exists he just threw a little life-dust on the planet and sat back to watch the show. He's probably sitting there now saying I'm going to have to work on that dust before pitching some more out on the next planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    Define "evil".
    People who voted for trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    People who voted for trump.
    At least you admit they're people now. Baby steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    So does that mean yo think if there is NO deliberate design behind that bacteria, than the evil belongs to the bacteria ?
    No. Look at it this way. When a bullet tears through flesh, shreds the heart, and kills a man, is the bullet evil, or is a bullet just doing what a bullet does, with no ethics, or morality involved? Now, when a person - who is capable of formulating ethical questions of "right, and wrong", pulls a trigger, and shoots, an unarmed innocent person, are they morally, and ethically responsible for their actions? Absolutely.

    In order to suggest that bacteria, viruses, and other single cell organisms that cause disease, and death are morally responsible for their actions ("evil"), one must first demonstrate that these arganisims are capable of making ethical decisions about who they attack, and who they do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    Communism rejects religion, and it kills millions upon millions.
    Where the fuck you come up with that asinine statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    No. Look at it this way. When a bullet tears through flesh, shreds the heart, and kills a man, is the bullet evil, or is a bullet just doing what a bullet does, with no ethics, or morality involved? Now, when a person - who is capable of formulating ethical questions of "right, and wrong", pulls a trigger, and shoots, an unarmed innocent person, are they morally, and ethically responsible for their actions? Absolutely.

    In order to suggest that bacteria, viruses, and other single cell organisms that cause disease, and death are morally responsible for their actions ("evil"), one must first demonstrate that these arganisims are capable of making ethical decisions about who they attack, and who they do not.
    Now that sounds more like it.. i just wanted to confirm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Of course not. bacteria do what they are designed to do. Now, if that design is nothing more than nature occurring in predictable patterns without direction, then there is no evil. However, if someone, or something deliberately designed those bacteria to do what they do, then the evil does not belong to the bacteria, but to the designer.
    Who says they were designed to do that? God didn't know at the time he created them, that they would evolve into something dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I see, so your insinuation is that god must be evil too. Although there is plenty of evidence that proves this it does not necessarily mean that he is evil for creating malaria. It could have been a simple fuck up on his part and he never meant for it kill people. Or it could have been harmless when he created it and evolution either caused it to become toxic, or man has evolved to become more susceptible to it. If he truly were all good why did he have to make everybody die? Or why didn't he make everyone just die in their sleep without pain? I think if he exists he just threw a little life-dust on the planet and sat back to watch the show. He's probably sitting there now saying I'm going to have to work on that dust before pitching some more out on the next planet.
    An omnipotent, almighty Know-it-all designs and creates his own universe out of thin air.. nothing exists before, except what he creates.. and with all this power he "accidentally" fucks up a few things ?
    That's not really omnipotent then, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Who says they were designed to do that? God didn't know at the time he created them, that they would evolve into something dangerous
    By definition god knows everything, what was, what is, and what ever will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzGod View Post
    At least you admit they're people now. Baby steps.
    Leave it to you to say something fucking stupid

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