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    A Literalist Paradox....

    If the Bible is total, complete, and literal Truth.....


    could God contradict it, if He wanted to?



    If the Literalist says "Yes, He could"...and that means that they are admitting that there exists the POSSIBILITY that the Bible is NOT (or no longer) "true"...

    as, any time since its creation and compilation, God could have altered or contradicted the dogma, commandments, "policies" as outlined in the Bible, or even changed the facts of History recounted in it.






    If the Literalist says "No, the Bible cannot be contradicted even by God, because it is Truth".....then they are saying the Bible is MORE POWERFUL than God.

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    I don't think there are many complete literalists.

    I certainly don't know of any.

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    Even the Bible does not profess a literal only interpretation:

    "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
    II Timothy 2: 15

    To show you an example, imagine this is a literal admonition:

    "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

    Matt. 7 : 6

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    There are some literal parts of the Bible, definitely, but it should be read with the guidance of the Holy Spirit to give you answers to your questions or meanings for what may be going on in your life. Much of the Bible is also just there for context such as Genesis or Revelations.

    Most of the parts of those books really have no meaning other then to explain the beginning and the end.

    This is why I think it's funny when atheists start getting all serious about a talking donkey or something, they are completely missing the point of the Bible.

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    If you create something and it works as it was designed to work, the "recipe" must be considered "truth" for that result.
    If you, the creator, decide at some point that you do not like the result, you are able to change the parameters in order to get a different result. That changed parameter becomes "truth" for the altered results you desired.

    As a creator, you have cart blanche for deciding what is truth. But only you have that ability to change truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    If the Bible is total, complete, and literal Truth.....


    could God contradict it, if He wanted to?



    If the Literalist says "Yes, He could"...and that means that they are admitting that there exists the POSSIBILITY that the Bible is NOT (or no longer) "true"...

    as, any time since its creation and compilation, God could have altered or contradicted the dogma, commandments, "policies" as outlined in the Bible, or even changed the facts of History recounted in it.






    If the Literalist says "No, the Bible cannot be contradicted even by God, because it is Truth".....then they are saying the Bible is MORE POWERFUL than God.
    A literalist on the Bible? God doesn't change the rules or his MIND, just the act of GOD saying anything makes it SO. Kinda like NIXON and now TRUMP. If "I" say this is so, then this so! And it can't be 'illegal'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    There are some literal parts of the Bible, definitely, but it should be read with the guidance of the Holy Spirit to give you answers to your questions or meanings for what may be going on in your life. Much of the Bible is also just there for context such as Genesis or Revelations.

    Most of the parts of those books really have no meaning other then to explain the beginning and the end.

    This is why I think it's funny when atheists start getting all serious about a talking donkey or something, they are completely missing the point of the Bible.
    While I generally agree with you here, that there are parts of the bible that are people describing something they didn't fully understand, some analogy, some literal, some metaphors, etc...

    The trouble is, when you effectively have to pick and choose which is which as you read, then it gets really tricky to try and sell that to someone else when it seems arbitrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    A literalist on the Bible? God doesn't change the rules or his MIND, just the act of GOD saying anything makes it SO. Kinda like NIXON and now TRUMP. If "I" say this is so, then this so! And it can't be 'illegal'.
    Except He doesn't often speak plainly, much of the Bible is very cryptic and open to interpretation.

    If God plainly listed everything he wanted you could probably put the entire Bible into ten pages.

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