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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    He said "professional"...he didn't say "good". And the movie was worse, and Travolta was worse than the movie.
    i would guess he was told by the cult to do the movie.... no choice.

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    Crazy does not even begin to describe those nuts.
    Imagine going to a board meeting, in a suit and tie, and then having the CEO literally jump across the table and start beating the crap out of you.
    And no one doing anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    Crazy does not even begin to describe those nuts.
    Imagine going to a board meeting, in a suit and tie, and then having the CEO literally jump across the table and start beating the crap out of you.
    And no one doing anything about it.
    its called brainwashing

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    its called brainwashing
    Intimidation takes on many forms. These are not prisoners of war. Most of these folks signed up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    Intimidation takes on many forms. These are not prisoners of war. Most of these folks signed up for it.
    this is beyond intimidation. These people think/feel... they deserve what ever is being delft out to them. The DID something, they are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    this is beyond intimidation. These people think/feel... they deserve what ever is being delft out to them. The DID something, they are wrong.
    They are not confined to a prisoner's restricted environment. Therefore once out of the immediate space where they are being abused, they have some potential capacity to evaluate their situation. Some it takes a lot longer than others, as we are seeing.

    At some moment, there can be this epiphanic moment where they say, fuck it I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    They are not confined to a prisoner's restricted environment. Therefore once out of the immediate space where they are being abused, they have some potential capacity to evaluate their situation. Some it takes a lot longer than others, as we are seeing.

    At some moment, there can be this epiphanic moment where they say, fuck it I'm out.
    The mind doesn't always work that way. Remember Elizabeth Smart? There were plenty of times that she physically could have run away. But she was afraid he would find her and kill her and her family if she did. Colleen Stan was a similar case. Not all bonds are physical.
    Ever see one of those elephants at the circus that has its leg tied to a spike in the ground? Think about it. That elephant could effortlessly break that rope and walk away. So why does it stay? Because when it was a baby, they tied it to a concrete reinforced anchor with a chain that it couldn't break. So it grows up thinking that it can't break a restraint on its leg and doesn't even try. Conditioning is a powerful thing.
    Cults use a similar tactic to abusive relationships. They cut someone off from family and friends and convince them they have nowhere else to go. In the case of Scientology, they cut people off from non Scientology family and friends. So not only do people who want to leave Scientology think they can't go to their non Scientology friends, they also think that leaving means they have to abandon their family and friends in Scientology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    The mind doesn't always work that way. Remember Elizabeth Smart? There were plenty of times that she physically could have run away. But she was afraid he would find her and kill her and her family if she did. Colleen Stan was a similar case. Not all bonds are physical.
    Ever see one of those elephants at the circus that has its leg tied to a spike in the ground? Think about it. That elephant could effortlessly break that rope and walk away. So why does it stay? Because when it was a baby, they tied it to a concrete reinforced anchor with a chain that it couldn't break. So it grows up thinking that it can't break a restraint on its leg and doesn't even try. Conditioning is a powerful thing.
    Cults use a similar tactic to abusive relationships. They cut someone off from family and friends and convince them they have nowhere else to go. In the case of Scientology, they cut people off from non Scientology family and friends. So not only do people who want to leave Scientology think they can't go to their non Scientology friends, they also think that leaving means they have to abandon their family and friends in Scientology.
    A lot tougher for kids to run away. Look at some of these examples where it took 40 years for these folks to leave the church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrilling View Post
    A lot tougher for kids to run away. Look at some of these examples where it took 40 years for these folks to leave the church.
    Yeah but Colleen Stan was an adult. I'm just saying that there is a complex psychology to this and it isn't always as easy as just putting on your shoes and walking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Yeah but Colleen Stan was an adult. I'm just saying that there is a complex psychology to this and it isn't always as easy as just putting on your shoes and walking out.
    Huge barrier. Some never get thru it.

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