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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Yeah but Colleen Stan was an adult. I'm just saying that there is a complex psychology to this and it isn't always as easy as just putting on your shoes and walking out.
    Especially when you were raised in it. It's the only life many of these people have ever known.

    I think this series does a good job of portraying why people don't just walk away, even after they figure out it's all bullshit. Not only will you be completely cut off from friends and family in the 'church',but you are walking away with no money, no home and no skills.

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    They are not confined to a prisoner's restricted environment. Therefore once out of the immediate space where they are being abused, they have some potential capacity to evaluate their situation. Some it takes a lot longer than others, as we are seeing.

    At some moment, there can be this epiphanic moment where they say, fuck it I'm out.
    They are at a certain level. They even take their kids from them. Sea Class or something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    Especially when you were raised in it. It's the only life many of these people have ever known.

    I think this series does a good job of portraying why people don't just walk away, even after they figure out it's all bullshit. Not only will you be completely cut off from friends and family in the 'church',but you are walking away with no money, no home and no skills.
    Also the auditing. I lost respect for JT during one of the docus, but then I realized they have literally rooms of his every thought, memory, experience, etc. That's a very powerful hold.

    Imagine if someone had all that on you and would use it all and try to (and perhaps succeed) in ruining your entire life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Also the auditing. I lost respect for JT during one of the docus, but then I realized they have literally rooms of his every thought, memory, experience, etc. That's a very powerful hold.

    Imagine if someone had all that on you and would use it all and try to (and perhaps succeed) in ruining your entire life.
    So creepy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    They are at a certain level. They even take their kids from them. Sea Class or something like that?
    Sea Org
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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    why one earth would i have to excuse you..... ALL RELIGIONS are cults.

    no religion should have tax exempt status.
    Not necessarily on the "cults" moniker. Some of the things that typically define cults are enforced discouragement of socializing with non-members, and heavy-handed repercussions for attempting to ditch the group. As far as the tax-exempt status goes, I agree wholeheartedly. There is no reason why places of worship should enjoy exemption from taxes. The exemptions cost U.S. taxpayers over $80 billion annually.

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    I watched one of the episodes. It sure looks and sounds like a crazy cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Not necessarily on the "cults" moniker. Some of the things that typically define cults are enforced discouragement of socializing with non-members, and heavy-handed repercussions for attempting to ditch the group. As far as the tax-exempt status goes, I agree wholeheartedly. There is no reason why places of worship should enjoy exemption from taxes. The exemptions cost U.S. taxpayers over $80 billion annually.
    One persons religion is another persons cult? Many religions that are considered mainstream do ride the fine line of cult like rules and behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    I watched one of the episodes. It sure looks and sounds like a crazy cult.
    It is hard not to view them as anything else.
    David Miscavige. What a crazy, brutal, tyrant. Beating up people in meetings, demanding tasks from people that are not humanly possible, and then turning everyone against those could not complete those tasks. Even treated his own dad like a second class citizen for not addressing him the proper way.

    I applaud what the show is doing. Much more will need to be done before they close shop. I hope we all see the day when it happens.

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    The founder even wrote that the best way to make money was to start a religion. The auditing costs big bucks. You pay your way up the ladder.

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