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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Bullshit. Bullshit that you were looking to start an "honest discussion". You were looking to mock other peoples' beliefs and that's all.
    I have no idea who you think is denying that medicine heals people. If someone didn't think it did then they wouldn't take it. Any doctor will tell you that a positive mental attitude is also vital to long term recovery. If peoples' faith gives them that then who are you to question it?
    Isn't there just as good a chance God gave them the cancer in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    You probably should pretend there was one. That's the least embarrassing route for you at this point.
    I'm not the least bit embarrassed. I stand by my OP, since, when you challenged it, and we're challenged to prove me wrong, proved incapable of doing so, thus resorted to mockery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Isn't there just as good a chance God gave them the cancer in the first place?
    Oh, no! God is never responsible for any bad thing that ever happens. He only gets credit for any good thing, even those good things that are a direct result of human activity, like medical treatment. That's the genius of religion. All credit is God's, all responsibility is man's. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    I just saw this on my Facebook, and literally spit coffee all over myself laughing so hard:



    Soooo...unless, when you find that lump under your breast, you immediately run off to church, instead of calling to make an appointment with your doctor's office, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this one.

    Praying when you have the "sniffles", and praising God when they pass, doesn't make God your healer. Going to church, and praying away the lump under your breast, or your pneumonia, or your broken arm makes God your healer. God is your "healer" when you go to God when the shit gets real. If not, don't tell me God is your healer. Your doctor is your healer; you just refuse to give your doctor the credit he deserves!
    The one that gets me is, "God will never give me more than I handle."

    So if your being lead off to the concentration camps as a Jew or being tortured that's a true statement? I think it was easy for someone with a sheltered life to make that one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Isn't there just as good a chance God gave them the cancer in the first place?
    Maybe. God has His reasons. It all works out in the end. If not in this world, then the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Oh, no! God is never responsible for any bad thing that ever happens. He only gets credit for any good thing, even those good things that are a direct result of human activity, like medical treatment. That's the genius of religion. All credit is God's, all responsibility is man's. Period.

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    I still have no idea why you're so upset with someone else's outlook that has absolutely no effect on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    The one that gets me is, "God will never give me more than I handle."

    So if your being lead off to the concentration camps as a Jew or being tortured that's a true statement? I think it was easy for someone with a sheltered life to make that one up.
    That outlook has gotten many people through difficult times in their life. Talk about sheltered, when do you people think people say that? People don't say that because they're stuck in traffic or someone got their coffee order wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I still have no idea why you're so upset with someone else's outlook that has absolutely no effect on you.
    Because the same morons who believe this tripe, also actively lobby on behalf of stupidity like the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. If you all wanted to believe in your Invisible Magic Skyman in the privacy of your own homes, and churches, I wouldn't give so much as a single fuck what kind of stupid shit you want to believe in. But, you aren't satisfied with that. Noooooo!!! You want to have laws passed that force the rest of us to behave as if we buy into your bullshit, too, or allow you to discriminate against people who's personal choices you feel are "icky" because your Invisible Magic Skyman says its icky.

    So, yeah. As long as religionists want to try to inject their stupidity into my secular government, I am going to continue to mock them for their irrational, stupid beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    That outlook has gotten many people through difficult times in their life. Talk about sheltered, when do you people think people say that? People don't say that because they're stuck in traffic or someone got their coffee order wrong.
    Yeah...the thing is, my experience has been - as someone on the receiving end of that platitude - is that no one actually says that who is going through something difficult.. That is actually one of those inane things that people who think they are being comforting say to someone who is in the midst of terrible grief, or tribulation.

    Trust me when I tell you that the person you have just said that to, generally wants to punch you in the face the minute those words have left your mouth. They are not comforting. They are not helpful. They come across as condescending, crass, and completely insincere. And to make matters worse, the person you just inflicted those words on is required to smile, and thank you, because they know that you think you have just been incredibly helpful, and supportive.

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    And, not surprising, a certain religionist apologist has decided that his attentions would be better served elsewhere. Picture that...

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