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    I am not religious, and you, Bishop, are way off your rocker.
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    You show more intelligence and morality than God.

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    What incredible cheek!

    You do not even have a clue as to how exactly the universe works and you think yourself superior to the author of creation? So why don't you do something about it instead of ranting ineffable twaddle here, eh?

    What you conveniently neglect to point out is that gnosticism is a pre-christian religion whose origins and teachings are vague. It is a weed that attaches itself to various religions and philosophies -- judaism, hellenism and eventually christianity -- and sells it to the very adherents of the religions it corrupts. That is why, almost all your posts here come as a criticism of christinity while, all this time, I have never seen you expound on gnostic philosophy and morality.

    Sell silly some place else.
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    "Gnosis" as a potentially flawed category[edit]

    In 1966 in Messina, Italy, a conference was held concerning systems of gnosis. Among its several aims were the need to establish a program to translate the recently acquired Nag Hammadi library and the need to arrive at an agreement concerning an accurate definition of "Gnosticism". This was in answer to the tendency, prevalent since the 18th century, to use the term "gnostic" less as its origins implied, but rather as an interpretive category for contemporary philosophical and religious movements. For example, in 1835, New Testament scholar Ferdinand Christian Baur constructed a developmental model of Gnosticism that culminated in the religious philosophy of Hegel; one might compare literary critic Harold Bloom's recent attempts to identify Gnostic elements in contemporary American religion, or Eric Voegelin's analysis of totalitarian impulses through the interpretive lens of Gnosticism.

    The "cautious proposal" reached by the conference concerning Gnosticism is described by Markschies:

    "In the concluding document of Messina the proposal was "by the simultaneous application of historical and typological methods" to designate "a particular group of systems of the second century after Christ" as gnosticism, and to use gnosis to define a conception of knowledge that transcends the times, which was described as "knowledge of divine mysteries for an élite"."

    — Markschies, Gnosis: An Introduction, p. 13
    In essence, this decided that "Gnosticism" would become a historically specific term, restricted to mean the Gnostic movements prevalent in the 3rd century, while "gnosis" would be a universal term, denoting a system of knowledge retained "for a privileged élite." However, this effort towards providing clarity in fact created more conceptual confusion, because the historical term "Gnosticism" was an entirely modern construction, while the new universal term "gnosis" was a historical term: "something was being called "gnosticism" that the ancient theologians had called 'gnosis' ... [A] concept of gnosis had been created by Messina that was almost unusable in a historical sense".[103] In antiquity, all agreed that knowledge was centrally important to life, but few were agreed as to what exactly constituted knowledge; the unitary conception that the Messina proposal presupposed did not exist.[103]

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    What incredible cheek!

    You do not even have a clue as to how exactly the universe works and you think yourself superior to the author of creation? So why don't you do something about it instead of ranting ineffable twaddle here, eh?

    What you conveniently neglect to point out is that gnosticism is a pre-christian religion whose origins and teachings are vague. It is a weed that attaches itself to various religions and philosophies -- judaism, hellenism and eventually christianity -- and sells it to the very adherents of the religions it corrupts. That is why, almost all your posts here come as a criticism of christinity while, all this time, I have never seen you expound on gnostic philosophy and morality.

    Sell silly some place else.
    I speak to the good of Gnostic Christianity as well as the evils of Christianity and Islam.

    I guess that you would join your ancient founders who used the sword to grow Christianity instead of good deeds.

    Your hate is showing but you no longer have the power to kill off those religions you do not like.

    If you cannot see yourself as more moral than your genocidal son murderer, then you might wonder why your morals are so poor.

    I prefer a religion based on reality and not yours based on really stupid supernatural ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    i've heard of people doing that. And loving enemies who did worse for that matter.
    I had a student raped by her father for years.....but she said she had to forgive him and respect him. I told her she could forgive him but there is no reason she has to respect someone who had so little respect for her
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    I had a student raped by her father for years.....but she said she had to forgive him and respect him. I told her she could forgive him but there is no reason she has to respect someone who had so little respect for her
    You can only forgive the repentant, because true forgiveness has to be shared and takes two to complete the salvific nature of repentance.

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    I think the bible is crap
    Here is something to think about

    People Are People
    Depeche Mode
    Lyrics
    People are people so why should it be
    You and I should get along so awfully
    So we're different colours
    And we're different creeds
    And different people have different needs
    It's obvious you hate me
    Though I've done nothing wrong
    I never even met you
    So what could I have done
    I can't understand
    What makes a man
    Hate another man
    Help me understand
    People are people so why should it be
    You and I should get along so awfully
    Help me understand
    Now you're punching and you're kicking
    And you're shouting at me
    I'm relying on your common decency
    So far it hasn't surfaced
    But I'm sure it exists
    It just takes a while to travel
    From your head to your fist
    I can't understand
    What makes a man
    Hate another man
    Help me understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Christians break the Golden Rule when accepting Jesus as savior.

    Jesus indicated that doing unto others as we would want done to us was a commandment.

    Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, goes against the Golden Rule and Jesus’ commandment.

    None of us would want to be punished for someone else’s sin, yet Christians ignore Jesus’ commandment and eagerly consent to let Jesus suffer for the sins they have done so that they might escape their just punishment.

    From what Jesus said, Christians are showing that they are not fit for heaven as they do not follow Jesus’ commandment and thus do evil.

    Should Christians step up and make themselves fit for heaven by rejecting substitutionary atonement?

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    Can Christians then ever be Done unto? Are you saying that the Golden Rule is ONLY for Christians to do unto other NON-Christians? By your logic here, a Christian can never ACTUALLY do unto another Christian because then THAT Christian who is the recipient of the being done unto is breaking the Rule.

    This OP might just be the dumbest OP I have ever read on this forum. Probably not, but it just feels good to say right now because of the level of stupid it displays..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I think the bible is crap
    Here is something to think about

    People Are People
    Depeche Mode
    Lyrics
    People are people so why should it be
    You and I should get along so awfully
    So we're different colours
    And we're different creeds
    And different people have different needs
    It's obvious you hate me
    Though I've done nothing wrong
    I never even met you
    So what could I have done
    I can't understand
    What makes a man
    Hate another man
    Help me understand
    People are people so why should it be
    You and I should get along so awfully
    Help me understand
    Now you're punching and you're kicking
    And you're shouting at me
    I'm relying on your common decency
    So far it hasn't surfaced
    But I'm sure it exists
    It just takes a while to travel
    From your head to your fist
    I can't understand
    What makes a man
    Hate another man
    Help me understand
    OMG!

    Did you really make use of the lyrics of an 80's song as the basis of a philosophical argument?????

    Duh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    I speak to the good of Gnostic Christianity as well as the evils of Christianity and Islam.

    I guess that you would join your ancient founders who used the sword to grow Christianity instead of good deeds.

    Your hate is showing but you no longer have the power to kill off those religions you do not like.

    If you cannot see yourself as more moral than your genocidal son murderer, then you might wonder why your morals are so poor.

    I prefer a religion based on reality and not yours based on really stupid supernatural ideas.

    Regards
    DL
    Gnosticism is self-contradictory.

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