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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Only he wasn't and you should be damned ashamed for saying that! He never advocated murder. He came to SAVE humanity from sin and has accomplished that through his crucifixion. Being aligned with Jesus Christ is being aligned with Love, Light and Truth. With it come forgiveness for transgressions, compassion and living a life as Jesus said we must do. Those who defy His infinite wisdom, because He is omniscient, are inviting peril into their own life.
    Strange then that a wise God has to resort to genocide and kill when he could just as easily take the moral high ground instead of the satanic low ground and kills when he could cure.

    Is that what you would do to your children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Strange then that a wise God has to resort to genocide and kill when he could just as easily take the moral high ground instead of the satanic low ground and kills when he could cure.

    Is that what you would do to your children?

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    Only He didn't kill. He Is A SAVIOR Of Mankind.

    Anyone who has died or had their life taken away is through their own doing, not God's through Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son Who Lives and Reigns Forever.

    It is so easy for people to accuse God or Jesus for not saving a person or even going so far as to accuse Him of being the one who caused that. But in reality that just isn't so. God LOVES humanity because He created humanity! He would not cause their destruction. However, He does allow people to learn their hard lessons by allowing destruction to occur in order to teach mankind a lesson that they need to learn. Were it not so, then how would mankind ever learn right from wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Not knowing how 'exercise' is spelled despite spell-check is profoundly stupid -- which isn't a surprise coming from you.
    One is a spelling mistake
    The other is a belief without proof that you argue.
    I wonder what else you believe, don't beleive.
    Do you believe in evolution ?
    Probably not as it destroys your biblical veiw.
    Yet it is fact. Conundrum much, Duh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Not knowing how 'exercise' is spelled despite spell-check is profoundly stupid -- which isn't a surprise coming from you.
    Don't go there....just an excuse to attack the messenger and ignore the message
    Last edited by Isalexi; 27th March 2017 at 10:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Only He didn't kill. He Is A SAVIOR Of Mankind.

    Anyone who has died or had their life taken away is through their own doing, not God's through Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son Who Lives and Reigns Forever.

    It is so easy for people to accuse God or Jesus for not saving a person or even going so far as to accuse Him of being the one who caused that. But in reality that just isn't so. God LOVES humanity because He created humanity! He would not cause their destruction. However, He does allow people to learn their hard lessons by allowing destruction to occur in order to teach mankind a lesson that they need to learn. Were it not so, then how would mankind ever learn right from wrong?
    Then he is a sadist.... making babies die of starvation because of drought is indeed a "hard lesson. " He could make rain....but he'll teach them to live where there's not enough rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Wrong. The correct commandment is:

    John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

    Don't you ever feel ashamed about your blatant misrepresentation of christianity?
    https://www.openbible.info/topics/do_unto_others


    According to some Christians, all other Christians are "wrong". That may be why there are so many interpretations (named denominations/divisions) of Christianity and all the vanity (self-righteousness) constantly exhibited by some Christians. Other Christians appear to live according to what they believe and are rarely, if ever heard from or about, but in all the ways they do good to their fellow human beings.

    More Luke:

    Luke 6:32-42English Standard Version (ESV)

    32 “If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. 35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. 36 Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful."

    Judging Others
    37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; 38 give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”

    39 "He also told them a parable: “Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher. 41 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 42 How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye."

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...42&version=ESV
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...42&version=KJV


    Just as humans can observe what other humans do, even if they remain silence and allow their God to be the judge, their God also observes and judges. Just as Santa Claus keeps a list of who's naughty and who's nice, so perhaps, does a Christian God and not only does he keep a list of who's naughty, who's nice, he likely knows who actually believes and who exploits, pretending to "believe" in order to gain the trust of others and manipulate others based on exploiting the trust of others that one is a believer, when in reality, they have no beliefs in Christ or a Christian God, only in how much they can manipulate others by abusing the Christian religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Then he is a sadist.... making babies die of starvation because of drought is indeed a "hard lesson. " He could make rain....but he'll teach them to live where there's not enough rain.
    It is interesting, even for people who "believe" in Christ and a Christian God, to hear people claim "God saved them" after a flood or tornado, when next door to them, a dozen homes and innocent children were wiped out. To claim that people who are ruined or obliterated, have done something wrong in God's eyes, is a strange "belief", especially for those that then elect a greedy, narcissistic, adulterer to be their president. In many ways, for some, it seems a "justification" for the areas in a belief system that have no explanation. Funny too, that someone like Pat Robertson only seemed to comment on how God was "punishing" people, when tragedy, appeared to happen to "lefties". He's silent when things happen in the mostly red states, to all kinds of "righties".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Only He didn't kill. He Is A SAVIOR Of Mankind.

    Anyone who has died or had their life taken away is through their own doing, not God's through Jesus Christ His Only Begotten Son Who Lives and Reigns Forever.

    It is so easy for people to accuse God or Jesus for not saving a person or even going so far as to accuse Him of being the one who caused that. But in reality that just isn't so. God LOVES humanity because He created humanity! He would not cause their destruction. However, He does allow people to learn their hard lessons by allowing destruction to occur in order to teach mankind a lesson that they need to learn. Were it not so, then how would mankind ever learn right from wrong?
    Strange that the innocent babies and children that God killed had their life taken away is through their own doing.

    If all you are going to do is lie to us, Christian, then all I say of Christian immorality is correct.

    I will give you a chance to make your case though.

    Tell us what King David's son did to deserve 6 days of torture by God before God finally killed him.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    It is interesting, even for people who "believe" in Christ and a Christian God, to hear people claim "God saved them" when next door to them, a dozen homes and innocent children were wiped out. To claim that people who are ruined or obliterated, have done something wrong in God's eyes, is a strange "belief", especially for those that then elect a greedy, narcissistic, adulterer to be their president. In many ways, for some, it seems a "justification" for the areas in a belief system that have no explanation. Funny too, that someone like Pat Robertson only seemed to comment on how God was "punishing" people, when tragedy, appeared to happen to "lefties". He's silent when things happen in the mostly red states, to all kinds of "righties".
    I always said that Obama is the opposite of God. God gets all the credit and none of the blame and Obama gets none of the credit and all of the blame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Why do you like the idea of being close to a genocidal son murdering God?

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    Who has Jesus told you to kill, maim or harm?

    He has told me to Feed Heal and tell people to avoid harm.

    I don't know what crap you have been reading about Jesus. But it is crap.

    Or, you don't care what Jesus has said. you just want to preach the gospel to your Real god @Gnostic Christian Bishop. you have made yourself your god to worship. And Jesus says that is okay. You will be alone with yourself for eternity alone all totally alone to worship yourself forever and ever.
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