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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Yes, and then sending us to hell for being as he created us to be.

    Nothing quite like taking responsibility for your actions. Then again, he had Jesus do that for him.

    All part of why I call Yahweh a vile demiurge.

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    Doesn't really matter in the end does it?

    You know the consequences so you can stand in hell and give God the middle finger all you want but that torture is still going to hurt forever and ever.

    Or you can suck it up and live a life of pure enjoyment?

    That choice is ultimately yours and that is the choice you are given.

    Now you will be down in Hell having your eyes gouged out with hot needles while your toenails are being ripped out yelling at God for punishing you and how you are how he made you (even though nobody will hear you) while I am sitting up in Heaven drinking martini's on a nice summer day in the sunshine, all because I was able to utter a few words that you refused to do.

    Fair?

    Maybe not but it is the choice you are given.

    Up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

    God created Eden as his heaven on Earth so that he could, some day come down and rule over us.

    He cast Satan out of heaven. I guess because she was creating a huge division there, and decided to send her to Earth, to also create division here, which she did.

    Why would a good God curse the Earth by sending Satan, the personification of evil, to Earth?

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    Because he wanted us to make a choice on our own. I guess the Bishop slept through the "Free Will" Doctrine lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

    God created Eden as his heaven on Earth so that he could, some day come down and rule over us.

    He cast Satan out of heaven. I guess because she was creating a huge division there, and decided to send her to Earth, to also create division here, which she did.

    Why would a good God curse the Earth by sending Satan, the personification of evil, to Earth?

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    Counterquestion: Are you not happy that god made the world and gave it to you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That, of course, is a Xian interpretation, injecting Ha-satan where he is not referenced. See the Rashi commentary:

    Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 14:12

    The "morning star" has nothing to do with the satan.
    You just simple don't know the christian religion.

    Last edited by zaangalewa; 1st March 2017 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Because he wanted us to make a choice on our own. I guess the Bishop slept through the "Free Will" Doctrine lessons.
    What "Free Will"?

    If I point a gun at your head and say "Tell me you love me or I'll blow your brains out"...and you are absolutely sure I mean and I DO mean it...

    do you have "free will" to choose whether or not to tell me you love me???

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    You just simple don't know the christian religion.
    He cited a Bible verse ...

    you said "Nuh-huh" and showed a "cool video with some Lite-Brite".


    Not sure you actually are in a position to declare OTHERS are "ignorant"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    What "Free Will"?

    If I point a gun at your head and say "Tell me you love me or I'll blow your brains out"...and you are absolutely sure I mean and I DO mean it...

    do you have "free will" to choose whether or not to tell me you love me???

    God does not do that. God says Do you want to be with me, if you do I will let you in heaven. If you don't, heaven is not the place for you.

    Eternal Separation from God is what you choose he says Okay.

    nothing more nothing less

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    You didn't expect him to keep Hillary Clinton around in Heaven forever, did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    God does not do that. God says Do you want to be with me, if you do I will let you in heaven. If you don't, heaven is not the place for you.
    And where do you go if God doesn't let you into Heaven?

    "If I point a gun at your head and say "Tell me you love me or I'll blow your brains out"..."--GordonGecko

    What's the metaphysical "difference" between that and what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    You didn't expect him to keep Hillary Clinton around in Heaven forever, did you?
    Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    -----Matthew 7:1-3

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