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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    And where do you go if God doesn't let you into Heaven?

    "If I point a gun at your head and say "Tell me you love me or I'll blow your brains out"..."--GordonGecko

    What's the metaphysical "difference" between that and what I said.
    Nobody knows what Hell actually is but TN is right in that it is the separation from God. You may think that is not bad but considering it's God, I don't imagine it will be pleasant.

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    All I know is that all dogs go to Heaven, because it wouldn't be heaven without them. I would also think that with life after death, the human need to relate to time and space probably no longer applies. I don't care if the circumstances are good or bad, eternity is a long long time from the perspective of time and space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    All I know is that all dogs go to Heaven, because it wouldn't be heaven without them.
    Of course. An episode of The Twilight Zone addressed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    All I know is that all dogs go to Heaven, because it wouldn't be heaven without them. I would also think that with life after death, the human need to relate to time and space probably no longer applies. I don't care if the circumstances are good or bad, eternity is a long long time from the perspective of time and space.
    I agree about the Dogs.

    I could spend HALF of eternity with Dogs. A few celestial minutes with humanity.

    Then, I could spend the rest of the time, residing in Star stuff, exploring new worlds, and discovering new galaxies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    First of all, it is the Hebrew language, not the "Jewish" language.

    Second of all, there is no upper case or lower case in Hebrew.

    Third of all, "adam" or אדם means "person." "Society" is חֶברָה and "tribe" is שֶׁבֶט.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ish+dictionary
    While I have a problem with Christianity, and the fact that it does not align well with much of the Bible, as it was written in its original languages, if one is going to attempt to lecture about what words meant in their original forms, one really should be certain that one is correct in one's assertions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    You don't know the timeline of God.

    You are looking at them through human perception.

    If you believe those timelines are literal you believe people lived till 900 yrs. old or so back then.

    That is unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Doesn't really matter in the end does it?

    You know the consequences so you can stand in hell and give God the middle finger all you want but that torture is still going to hurt forever and ever.

    Or you can suck it up and live a life of pure enjoyment?

    That choice is ultimately yours and that is the choice you are given.

    Now you will be down in Hell having your eyes gouged out with hot needles while your toenails are being ripped out yelling at God for punishing you and how you are how he made you (even though nobody will hear you) while I am sitting up in Heaven drinking martini's on a nice summer day in the sunshine, all because I was able to utter a few words that you refused to do.

    Fair?

    Maybe not but it is the choice you are given.

    Up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Because he wanted us to make a choice on our own. I guess the Bishop slept through the "Free Will" Doctrine lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    First of all, it is the Hebrew language, not the "Jewish" language.

    Second of all, there is no upper case or lower case in Hebrew.

    Third of all, "adam" or אדם means "person." "Society" is חֶברָה and "tribe" is שֶׁבֶט.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ish+dictionary
    I agree that there is no upper or lower case in Hebrew. That capital A in Adam has been know to be a spelling error for a long time now and that is plainly seen by how the bible authors and experts have interpreted the word adam.

    I see that the biblical experts agree with me more than you.

    Genesis 5:2 He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    What are you basing this nonsense on? Satan and Lucifer where never proven to be the same being.
    I did not say they were and was talking of Satan or whoever evil entity you think was dropped into Eden to pester Eve.

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