Last edited by Czernobog; 9th March 2017 at 09:45 AM.
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But if you want people to worship you (why would a god even need that, that's a human trait of requiring worship, things ancient kings demanded of their kingdoms, and their people often viewed them as a god) then you should provide some proof, not expect people to believe ridiculous stories by men known to be dishonest and exaggerate things, and not by force, which was huge in the spread of Christianity
Before I even read on, let me guess, there are likely several right winger posts in this thread whining about christian bashing. I can probably even name them. One begins with an R
[here comes a completely stupid response like "oh,nice picture of yourself"]
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
The better analogy is if you CREATE a computer program that simulates artificial intelligence.
If you use it according to the parameters of the logic you CREATED, it does amazing, life changing things.
If you use erroneous logic, it ceases to function the way it was CREATED to function.
An amazing CREATION, rather that being this amazing thing, is suddenly reduced to a useless screen of blinking lights.
If obedience to the law is the point, then creating inanimate objects eternally following the laws of nature would have sufficed. But obedience to the law isn't the point, now, is it?
The point is creating BEINGS capable of loving and being loved. An existence with the capacity to love and being loved is most certainly better off than the existence of inanimate objects, wouldn't you say?
But an existence with the capacity to love and being loved NECESSITATES rational thought and free will. And so, YOU CHOOSE either to stay true to your nature and be happy, or betray your nature and inadvertently annihilate yourself in the process.
How then is god a 'bully that relies on coercion' eh? Do you prefer to kill yourself and go back to the existence of inanimate objects? By all means, that is your choice. You can do that and god wouldn't stop you. After all, you are an inanimate object and only through god's grace are you alive in the first place.
When I sit you in a chair, put a gun to your head, and say, "sign over everything you own to me, or I put a bullet in your brain," You have rational free will, right? You can choose to sign everything over, or not. No one is taking away your right to make a choice.
Hell is the gun at your head.