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    "God" is a tyrant

    Proposed: The Christian God is a tyrant determined to force everyone on the planet to convert to Christianity, and worship as a Christian, and the illusion of "Free Will" is a pretence that he created to convince you that observance was your own idea.

    Otherwise, why fill the Bible with references of the eternal torture, and suffering that would befall non-believers after judgement, when one dies. Now, the first question that is going to be asked is going to be an attempt at a distraction: "Why should I care what the Bible says, since I'm an Atheist?" However, it doesn't matter what my theological position is, does it? "The truth is the truth," right? So, if the Bible is the Truth, then the things that are in the Bible are "the Truth" whether I believe them, or not. Which, brings us right back around to my question. If God is not a tyrant, and does not demand worship from everyone, then why threaten anyone who does not believe? If God does not care one way, or the other, if someone chooses to believe, or not, why bother with all of the threats?

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    But the wicked are not punished for their disbelief, they are punished for their wickedness.

    Even someone who accepts God must be repentant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Proposed: The Christian God is a tyrant determined to force everyone on the planet to convert to Christianity, and worship as a Christian, and the illusion of "Free Will" is a pretence that he created to convince you that observance was your own idea.

    Otherwise, why fill the Bible with references of the eternal torture, and suffering that would befall non-believers after judgement, when one dies. Now, the first question that is going to be asked is going to be an attempt at a distraction: "Why should I care what the Bible says, since I'm an Atheist?" However, it doesn't matter what my theological position is, does it? "The truth is the truth," right? So, if the Bible is the Truth, then the things that are in the Bible are "the Truth" whether I believe them, or not. Which, brings us right back around to my question. If God is not a tyrant, and does not demand worship from everyone, then why threaten anyone who does not believe? If God does not care one way, or the other, if someone chooses to believe, or not, why bother with all of the threats?
    God isn't forcing anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    God isn't forcing anything.
    Sure. And the law does not "force" anything. When I get pissed off at my ex-girlfriend, I can beat her bloody, kill her dog, and rape her kid in front of her if I want to. No one will stop me. Of course, I will have a needle put into my arm, when I'm done, and I know this. You see, when given a "choice" where you know that the consequences of making the "wrong" choice is so severe, and unpleasant that it just isn't worth the cost really isn't any choice at all, now is it?

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    "God is a concept by which we measure our pain." -- John Lennon

    (One his most brilliant lyrics, too.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    "God is a concept by which we measure our pain." -- John Lennon

    (One his most brilliant lyrics, too.)

    Yes, he is our comforter.

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    Yer just pissed cause He said you shouldn't fuck dudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Sure. And the law does not "force" anything. When I get pissed off at my ex-girlfriend, I can beat her bloody, kill her dog, and rape her kid in front of her if I want to. No one will stop me. Of course, I will have a needle put into my arm, when I'm done, and I know this. You see, when given a "choice" where you know that the consequences of making the "wrong" choice is so severe, and unpleasant that it just isn't worth the cost really isn't any choice at all, now is it?
    God does not beat my Dog, or my wife,.... God said belive and you can live with me for ever, if you don't that is okay, you don't have to live with me forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    God does not beat my Dog, or my wife,.... God said belive and you can live with me for ever, if you don't that is okay, you don't have to live with me forever.
    Wellll...except he didn't just say that, did he? Had he just said that, and left it there, there would have been no problem. But, he followed that up with, "Do things my way, or I am going to flay the skin off your bones for all eternity" (yes, that is a paraphrase, not a direct quotation from any point in the Bible). Therein lies my problem. When you deliver a "choice", in which the consequences of one option are too severe for a reasonable person to consider subjecting one's self to, then the choice ceases to be choice, and becomes coercion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    Yer just pissed cause He said you shouldn't fuck dudes.
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