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    The question isn’t: Will conservatives push to enact laws based on the Bible? We are way beyond that. The real questions are: 1. How many more of these laws do they want to impose? And, 2. What will our nation look like if their crusade is successful to bring America’s laws into agreement with “God’s law”?... More in link!

    The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law - The Daily Beast
    This is a pretty telling article... And it's a link...so it Fucking has to be true...you can't prove my link wrong, therefore, I win!
    Maybe the cons can actually elect jesus to some office.
    So you bring nothing. Just spewing more democrat lies hate, venom, and hanging participles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Most of your examples have nothing to do with public accommodation laws.
    So tell me exactly what public accommodation laws are you talking about.

    The op stated that if I do not discriminate (in the broad sense of the word) in the conduct of my business, then I am for sharia law. Clearly that is an absurd proposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Xian Sharia is not allowing alcohol to be sold on Sunday...because it offends the snowflakes sensibilities.
    Sharia law presupposes a theocratic polity. Does the mere ban on liquor make the us a theocracy? Is that your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    What EXACTLY is absurd about the comparison?
    If you have to ask that question, you are too fucking stupid to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Xian Sharia is not allowing alcohol to be sold on Sunday...because it offends the snowflakes sensibilities.
    And you compare that to:

    --Honor Beatings allowed, for when your women-folk commit the sin of being raped? (And WOE be unto the poor girl, if she decides to have pre-marital sex with an unapproved man....)

    --Death Penalty for Blasphemy.

    DAMN, dude, I like my booze as well, but....buying it a day early, is hardly all that drastic.

    (I am quite certain it can be a problem for drunks, however.)

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    CHALLENGE:

    Find equivalence in Christian Doctrine to the following:

    SHARIA LAW ? LIST OF KEY RULES ? What Is Sharia Law?

    From the link:

    According to Sharia law:

    • Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
    • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death (see Allah moon god).
    • A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death (compulsion in religion).
    • A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
    • A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
    • Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
    • A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
    • A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Religion of Peace).
    • A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
    • A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
    • Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
    • A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
    • A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
    • A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Errors in Quran).
    • A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
    • A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
    • Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
    • Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
    Link:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/j...-all-societies

    From the link:

    5. A
    woman captive of jihad may be forced to have to sex with her captors (now
    owners).

    Quran 4:24 and
    especially the sacred traditions and classical law allow this. The sacred traditions
    say that while out on military campaigns under Muhammad’s leadership, jihadists
    used to practice coitus interruptus with their female captives.

    Women soldiers fighting terrorists today must be forewarned of the danger.

    Back-up
    articles: Jihad
    and Qital
    and Slavery
    9. Slavery
    is allowed.

    It is true that freeing slaves was done in original Islam
    (Quran 5:89 and 24:33), and the Quran says to be kind to slaves (Quran 4:36),
    but that is not the entire story.

    In addition to those verses, Quran 4:24, 23:1-7; 33:52 allow
    the institution. Muhammad owned slaves, even one who was black (so says a
    sacred tradition). He was militarily and politically powerful during his later life
    in Medina, but he never abolished slavery as an institution.

    Officially,
    Islamic nations have outlawed slavery (Article 11, which is still based on shariah). That
    proves Islam can reform on at least one matter. Can it reform on the other
    shariah laws? And we are told that “no other nation or religious group in
    the world treated slaves better than the Muslims did.” The back-up
    article and next two items in this list contradict that claim.

    The legacy of slavery still runs deep in Islamic countries even today.

    Back-up
    article: Slavery


    14. Drinkers
    and gamblers may be flogged.

    Quran 2:219, 4:43, and 5:90-91, in that sequence, show that
    Islam gradually prohibited alcohol. The last passage also prohibits “gaming” of
    sorts. The sacred traditions and classical law discuss punishing gamblers and
    alcoholics. One tradition says to execute unrepentant alcoholics who do not
    stop. But usually drinkers were flogged forty or eighty times, with garments,
    palm branches, or sandals in early Islam.

    Islamic countries can impose these punishments today,
    or religious and legal scholars still argue for it.

    Back-up article: Muhammad, the Quran, and
    Prohibition
    @DebateDrone That is a whole lot harsher than not selling Booze on Sunday, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    So tell me exactly what public accommodation laws are you talking about.

    The op stated that if I do not discriminate (in the broad sense of the word) in the conduct of my business, then I am for sharia law. Clearly that is an absurd proposition.
    I noted the bullshit examples that you listed on your post....not the OP.
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    CHALLENGE:

    Find equivalence in Christian Doctrine to the following:

    SHARIA LAW ? LIST OF KEY RULES ? What Is Sharia Law?

    From the link:

    According to Sharia law:



    Link:

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/09/j...-all-societies

    From the link:









    @DebateDrone That is a whole lot harsher than not selling Booze on Sunday, don't you think?
    I am not an expert on the Qu'ran, but as one scholar said...there are the same kinds of rules in the Bible. Yet we don't stone people to death.

    Not selling alcohol is one real Christian sharia law on the books in the United States of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    What EXACTLY is absurd about the comparison?
    What is absurd is not being able to admit that if Christians were to given free reign in the US ...the Bible and not the Constitution would be their only guide.

    Even with the Constitution they attempt to slip whoppers by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    We laugh, but I remember not being able to go to a hardware store to get a part for a broken toilet...because someone was offended I was not at Church.

    Maybe the law should have required the Church to stay open on Sunday so that people could go take a dump.
    Here in the UK we muddle through, which means that the Church of England by right has 26 seats for Bishops in the government. Sundays are a mish-mash. Little "convenience" stores and corner-shops below a certain size can open all day on a Sunday, but major retailers and supermarkets can only open for six hours (usually 10 till 4)

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