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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I am not an expert on the Qu'ran, but as one scholar said...there are the same kinds of rules in the Bible. Yet we don't stone people to death.
    Of course, there is also presently no legitimate authority for the enforcement of Biblical law anyway. The halachica requirements are such that even if such an authority did exist today, the death penalty is highly unlikely.

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    Sharia law presupposes a theocratic polity. Does the mere ban on liquor make the us a theocracy? Is that your point?
    Sharia law is laws based on a holy book ...any "holy book". It has nothing to do with the US being or not being a theocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Of course, there is also presently no legitimate authority for the enforcement of Biblical law anyway. The halachica requirements are such that even if such an authority did exist today, the death penalty is highly unlikely.
    Sharia law exists in US Churches. There are plenty of denominations that resolve conflicts between members and members and the Church through religious resolution where the bible is their guide.

    We even seen a horrible case of this in the Duggar case.

    I have no problem if Jews, Muslims or Christians wish to resolve disputes using their holy books...I have a problem with using Sharia law in lieu of and skirting US law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    And you compare that to:

    --Honor Beatings allowed, for when your women-folk commit the sin of being raped? (And WOE be unto the poor girl, if she decides to have pre-marital sex with an unapproved man....)

    --Death Penalty for Blasphemy.

    DAMN, dude, I like my booze as well, but....buying it a day early, is hardly all that drastic.

    (I am quite certain it can be a problem for drunks, however.)
    How did you infiltrate your local FLDS? They are pretty strict about letting outsiders see how they treat their captive members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Sharia law is laws based on a holy book ...any "holy book". It has nothing to do with the US being or not being a theocracy.
    Sorry but sharia refers to god's divine law as part of the ISLAMIC tradition.

    The only theocracy I know in existence today is the vatican which is governed by CANON LAW, not sharia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Sharia law exists in US Churches. There are plenty of denominations that resolve conflicts between members and members and the Church through religious resolution where the bible is their guide.
    Of course, it is not Sharia (which is Islamic law), but I get your point. However, such conflict resolution is only appropriate to the degree that the parties agree to use such a method or board.

    In the case of Jewish law, the power of a beis din is relevant only to religious law - again, unless the parties agree otherwise.

    And in either case, there are reasons agreements can be voided by a court, should there be a (secular, of course) legal basis for undermining the agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Of course, it is not Sharia (which is Islamic law), but I get your point. However, such conflict resolution is only appropriate to the degree that the parties agree to use such a method or board.

    In the case of Jewish law, the power of a beis din is relevant only to religious law - again, unless the parties agree otherwise.

    And in either case, there are reasons agreements can be voided by a court, should there be a (secular, of course) legal basis for undermining the agreement.
    I'm sorry but 'christian sharia' is nonsense. Canon law and sharia are two very different things.

    The purpose of sharia is to constitute a polity with islam as the basis for law.

    Canon law is an ecclesiastical law that governs the conduct of the church (its clergy and adherents) wherever they may be. The church does not presume to govern people of different religions even if they lived in a christian state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    No, a veto is what the President exercise a bill that has been PASSED by Congress and then goes to his desk for his signature.
    Now, tell me what laws passed by a GOP majority Congress that were vetoed by Obama.
    The democrats never allowed votes on them

    Obama vetoes Obamacare repeal bill - CNNPolitics.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Xian Sharia is not allowing alcohol to be sold on Sunday...because it offends the snowflakes sensibilities.

    There are very few of those laws left. Most would not care if the laws changed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Sharia law is laws based on a holy book ...any "holy book". It has nothing to do with the US being or not being a theocracy.
    Is that why democrats support it?

    Florida Democrats Just Voted To Impose Sharia Law On Women

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