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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Actually I don't get my physics knowledge from fundamentalists with a hardcore agenda. That the expansion of the universe itself is not limited by the speed of light. This is true, and is not remotely news. It also has nothing to do with what the speed of light looks like operating within the laws of physics. c = c = c = c = c = ..... It does not change, by definition.
    Still can't wrap your mind around the concept, I see.

    The constancy of the speed of light is a postulate of SPECIAL RELATIVITY, that it is the same as viewed from an observer in an INERTIAL reference frame (that means an observer at rest or in uniform linear motion relative to the object being observed). Is that clear?

    The speed of light is NOT constant in general relativity. The speed of light will differ depending on an observer in a NON-INERTIAL reference frame (that means an observer that is accelerating relative to the object being observed. Is that clear?

    Is The Speed of Light Everywhere the Same?

    The Speed of Light as Measured by Non-Inertial Observers

    That the speed of light depends on position when measured by a non-inertial observer is a fact routinely used by laser gyroscopes that form the core of some inertial navigation systems. These gyroscopes send light around a closed loop, and if the loop rotates, an observer riding on the loop will measure light to travel more slowly when it traverses the loop in one direction than when it traverses the loop in the opposite direction. This is known as the Sagnac Effect. The gyroscope does employ such an observer: it is the electronics that sits within the gyro. This electronic observer detects the difference in those light speeds, and attributes that difference to the gyro's not being inertial: it is accelerating within some inertial frame. That measurement of an acceleration allows the body's orientation to be calculated, which keeps it on track and in the right position as it flies.

    When I posted this, I wasn't inviting your stupid opinion regarding the matter. I was educating you about the thing you pretend to know. So, save yourself the embarrassment and keep your silliness to yourself.

    Duh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    Constantine and the first council of Nicaea created Jesus in 325 CE to form a composite religion that pagans would be willing to accept. There is more evidence that Socrates is real than there is for the man-god and scholar known as Jesus.
    The First Council of Nicaea (/naɪˈsiːə/; Greek: Νίκαια [ˈni:kaɪja]) was a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea (now Iznik, Bursa province, Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Constantine I organized the Council along the lines of the Roman Senate and presided over it, but did not cast any official vote.

    This ecumenical council was the first effort to attain consensus in the Church through an assembly representing all of Christendom. Hosius of Cordoba, who was probably one of the Papal legates, may have presided over its deliberations.[5][6]

    Its main accomplishments were settlement of the Christological issue of the divine nature of the God the Son and his relationship to God the Father,[3] the construction of the first part of the Nicene Creed, establishing uniform observance of the date of Easter,[7] and promulgation of early canon law.[4][8]

    By 325 AD, pagans have already accepted christianity. In fact, alaric, the goth chieftain who sacked rome in 410 AD is a christian.

    Get your facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Evidence,

    An atheist and a vegan walk into a bar....how do you know?

    Because within 5 minutes they will have told everybody and tried to convert them.
    Joe Rogan fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    Get your facts straight.
    My facts are straight. You need to dig a lot deeper than Wikipedia to find what year the church came up with the name Jesus to worship as a peaceful man-god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight View Post
    New book Crucifixion’s a Doddle by Julian Doyle, uses ancient texts, religious artworks and the Bible itself to refute some of the most common-held beliefs about the death of Jesus.

    Doyle's research questions the popular image of the immense wooden cross when there were so few trees in Judea. He points out that the Romans executed criminals by impaling them, while Jewish law preferred stoning them. And why were there no images of the cross for almost four centuries after Jesus' death?

    After the attempt to crucify the Monty Python team for their film Life of Brian it became clear to Doyle, the film’s editor, that something was seriously wrong with everything we think we know and he began to investigate.

    He tells Express Online his ten reasons why the Bible is wrong.

    Ten reasons why the Bible has it wrong about Jesus Christ's crucifixion | Books | Entertainment | Express.co.uk
    So, the whole backbone of the Xian faith is a lie...jesus wasn't even crucified. I knew the story was silly, but didn't know there was a book that supported the crucifixion was bullshit angle.
    Why does it matter to you what a Christian believes? they are not like Moslems saying they'll behead you if you don't convert to Islam.
    Why does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    My facts are straight. You need to dig a lot deeper than Wikipedia to find what year the church came up with the name Jesus to worship as a peaceful man-god.
    No. Your facts are crooked.

    The first council of nicea was convened to formalize christian dogma and to unify christendom -- not to make it more palatable to pagans. By 325 ad, christianity was the only religion capable of 'underwriting' (so to speak) the continued political existence of the roman empire. By 410 ad, christianity didn't even need the western roman empire to survive.

    You make it seem that christianity was rearranging dogma to suit political ends. The truth is, the council at nicea merely cemented christianity as a new religion separate from judaism. Christianity was already an accomplished fact. And it is this new religion that would bring about a semblance of unified europe up until the spread of islam from the east.

    This has nothing to do with what pagans are or aren't willing to accept. The barbarian horde that swept the roman empire were already christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight View Post
    ... Jesus wasn't crucified ...
    Jesus was crucified.

    Your turn.

    Last edited by zaangalewa; 23rd March 2017 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutional Sheepdog View Post
    Why does it matter to you what a Christian believes? they are not like Moslems saying they'll behead you if you don't convert to Islam.
    Why does it matter?
    He is a Muslim. They play this boring game since 1400 years now.

    From my point of view explained by the way the apostle Paul with his "song of love" why Mohammed is wrong. And he did this 600 years before Mohammed came and 2000 years before Erdogan now tries to become the master of the universe.

    Last edited by zaangalewa; 23rd March 2017 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    He is a Muslim. They play this boring game since 1400 years now. Form my pint of view explained by the way the apostle Paul with his "song of love" why Mohammed is wrong. And he did this 600 years before Mohammed came and 2000 years before Erdoqan tries to become the master of the universe.

    I wouldn't call it a game it's war

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    The barbarian horde that swept the roman empire were already christian.
    When did they celebrate Eostre?

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