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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    Given that I think way more people have religious beliefs than not, it could be the people who are rational adn don't throw out their logic and reasoning that are the ones with a disorder.

    Although that appears to be changing. I'm pretty sure it is a disposition, ingrained in genetics, that allows people to throw away all logic and reasoning to have "faith" that religion is true.
    IME, people who actually have faith are very, very rare. I don't think I have ever met one.

    But I know many who are attracted to the idea, and spend their lives trying to achieve it. Some in very admirable ways.

    Others, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    He supports not punishing Childern for the crimes of one of their parents. Sounds pretty Christian to me.
    SIN OF THE PARENTS? So the 'GIRL' who is a sinner? Seems to me RAPIST is the sinner here but when it comes to SEX, we have to have a woman involved to share the blame, huh? What's your age threshold? Is a 12 or 13 year old girl responsible? As long she is impregnable she is complicit? Is that how you CHRISTIANS see it?

    YOU SICKEN ME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    SIN OF THE PARENTS? So the 'GIRL' who is a sinner? Seems to me RAPIST is the sinner here but when it comes to SEX, we have to have a woman involved to share the blame, huh? What's your age threshold? Is a 12 or 13 year old girl responsible? As long she is impregnable she is complicit? Is that how you CHRISTIANS see it?

    YOU SICKEN ME!
    TNV apparently has a lot in common with radical Islamic fundamentalists.

    Weird, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    Permit me to applaud you for referencing "spiritual" people as opposed to "religious" people. I consider myself to be a spiritual person, but most assuredly not a religious person. Its my perception, that religious implies some sort of affiliation or attachment to some religion, an entity that is typically organized. No doubt, organized religion has been, and most likely will continue to be one of the most destructive factors in world history. I am not a member of and have no intention to join any organized religion or church. My beliefs are personal and I do not require the instruction of others regarding them, nor do I have the right to force my perceptions and beliefs on others, especially using the government as a vehicle.
    Most of my friends belong to a religion and go to regular services.

    None is a craven lunatic like the politician in the Op is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    While there seems some practical and common sense and secular reasons to believe in what some human beings wrote about the existence of someone who taught good lessons for humans to live side by side in peace and harmony by (observant people, religious or not, recognize universal values, based on observation of cause and effect and study of the history of humankind), there seems another, almost masochistic and sadistic segment of the human population that seems to think their religions are about forcing other human beings, in cruel ways and lacking any ethic of reciprocity.


    "Oklahoma lawmaker defends pregnancy from rape and incest as ‘beauty from ashes’"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82107e7bf75e

    It makes you wonder if people that appear to twist things in these sorts of ways, are trying to defend or justify their own behavior.

    "America Has an Incest Problem"
    https://www.theatlantic.com/national...roblem/272459/

    Women made pregnant by their Uncle Drool Bob aren't going to report their reason for wanting an abortion as "raped by father (brother or uncle)" and why should they suffer carrying the product of a crime within them for 9 months?

    There is another reason some do not like women being able to choose to be pregnant or not.

    "The problem is that adoption is a business, a big business. There is lots of money to be had by those who make their living from the transferring of parental rights from one party to another. If adoption was truly a societal need, then there wouldn’t be such profits to be had."
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    Are you saying that children born from a rape are not beautiful?

    Are they somehow tainted and should we look down upon them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Not every single spiritual person is anti-human.

    Not even every religion.

    But it's quite popular. The dude in the Op would be right at home with ISIS.
    Spirituality is not synonymous with religion. It is possible to be spiritual without religion. I would even submit that religion is antithetical to spirituality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight View Post
    Quite clearly, religion, especially Xianity, is a mental disorder. Those people are nuts.
    What do you expect from a religion whose God commanded genocide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you saying that children born from a rape are not beautiful?

    Are they somehow tainted and should we look down upon them?
    From the perspective of the rape victim, I would suspect that is actually a pretty common view. Yeah. That's kinda the point. Most women who are raped would like nothing more than to put the event as far in their rearview mirror as possible. The vast majority would, I rather suspect, prefer not to be forced to look at an 18-year reminder of their most horrifying, humiliating, painful life event. Particularly if the monster comes out, and grows up to look like rapist daddy. Oh, and in many states, here's the real kicker; you have the kid, and your rapist gets parental rights. That's right, Rape Daddy gets to sue you for visitation. So, not only do you have this rape spawn staring up at you for 18 years reminding you of what happened, but you also get a visit every other weekend from your assaulter to come pick up the kid. Yeah, can't imagine why rape victims would not find the prospect of squeezing out the spawn of their rapist as something that's "beautiful".

    Now, I'm sure you're gonna rush off to the interweb to find some anecdotal example of some woman who kept her rape baby, and is happy to expound about what a blessing the child was, blah, blah, blah. To which I would reply, "So, what?" I didn't say every woman. I said "pretty common", "most women", "the vast majority". So, some anecdotal outlier in no way invalidates my suspicion.
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    Not to mention genetics, that baby may well grow up to be a rapist himself.
    In the case of stranger rape, the kid could grow to be a violent individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you saying that children born from a rape are not beautiful?

    Are they somehow tainted and should we look down upon them?
    Are you devoid of humanity? Forcing a woman to carry her rapist's child could easily break her, mentally.

    It ties her to that rapist for life, and such men get visitation rights frequently.

    It invites a parade of people associated with the rapist into his victim's life.

    It's literally torture. Weird, that you need this explained. Don't you have a mother or sisters or friends you love?
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