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    and the Judge in the case is a well-known mass murderer and war criminal...

    who has already said in the opening statements that your crime of a parking ticket is worse than anything he ever did, in fact, his crimes weren't even "crimes"?

    Would you consider that a "just" legal system?
    A just legal system abides by the principle of proportionality between crime and punishment. Obviously, that is not a just legal system.

    Was there a point to this idiotic thread?
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    Rors figured it out....but of course can't discuss it. (because he is terrified of examining his own beliefs)


    It is an analogy to the basis for Christianity.....that the Biblica God, who is (according to that book) a mass murderer

    judges us as "sinful", even for the most MINOR offenses (like not believing in Him)....and worthy of extreme punishment.

    Yet we are supposed to consider this dictatorial and hypocritical "judicial system" as not just believable....but deserving of our support.
    Why go here, even after I have explained catholic teachings, hmmm?

    The better analogy here is a legal system that merely reminds you, repeatedly, not to park illegally and a fatal accident eventually happens precisely because you were illegally parked.

    With your stupidity undeterred, you go on to argue that it never occurred to you to follow the parking rules because you were never issued a ticket for disobeying them in the first place.

    Duh?

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    So? Yes...he's the dictator?

    And my choices are obey...or suffer? Like in any Earthly dictatorship?
    Why do you keep insisting that christian theology is legalistic? It isn't.

    You want a legalistic religion, try judaism. But you can't impugn your idiotic theological speculations on judaism, now, can you?

    Why a parking ticket when you can just as easily use eating pork?

    Is there a politically-correct rule that says its ok to be a bigot against christianity but not against everyone else?
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    A just legal system abides by the principle of proportionality between crime and punishment. Obviously, that is not a just legal system.
    According to standard Christian dogma.....does the "good person but who rejects Christianity as an article of faith"...

    get sent to the same Hell as a mass murderer?

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    Is there a politically-correct rule that says its ok to be a bigot against christianity but not against everyone else?
    Ian is our only local PH Jew as far as a I know...and I'll happily debate him on flaws in Judaism.

    If a Muslim PHer shows up....I'll do the same with them.

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    According to standard Christian dogma.....does the "good person but who rejects Christianity as an article of faith"...

    get sent to the same Hell as a mass murderer?
    I already answered this. Nobody knows. The church already affirmed the possibility of salvation outside catholicism, and even for the mass-murderer. In fact, the church makes no official teaching that presumes to predict salvation for any individual.

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    Ian is our only local PH Jew as far as a I know...and I'll happily debate him on flaws in Judaism.

    If a Muslim PHer shows up....I'll do the same with them.
    LOL. As far as I can remember, you have NEVER debated him on the flaws of judaism. Most of your criticism of christianity involves the OLD TESTAMENT, so clearly, you should be happily debating him. Maybe then, the theological distinction between god's command and god's commandment would become clear to you. After all, you seem to me like the sort who would get something like that.

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    I already answered this. Nobody knows. The church already affirmed the possibility of salvation outside catholicism, and even for the mass-murderer. In fact, the church makes no official teaching that presumes to predict salvation for any individual.
    If "nobody knows" and the Catholic Church can't guarantee salvation for its adherents...


    what is the point of believing in Christianity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingrat View Post
    LOL. As far as I can remember, you have NEVER debated him on the flaws of judaism. Most of your criticism of christianity involves the OLD TESTAMENT, so clearly, you should be happily debating him. Maybe then, the theological distinction between god's command and god's commandment would become clear to you. After all, you seem to me like the sort who would get something like that.
    The Old Testament shows God as a tribalistic, vindictive, petty....genocidal madman.

    It's why some Christians try to pretend "the OT is meaningless, it's just some myths and tall tales....ignore it".....problem with that is...

    why couldn't the same be said of the New Testament???

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    Weirdly, Rors, your "Christian faith"....sems to bring you no peace and joy....whatsoever?
    Looks like he's finally had enough.

    Does that bring you some measure of peace?

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