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    I've given homeless $5 and more, but what I offer that is more precious, is advice.

    Point them out to the right town...

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    I have never engaged with them. I feel a little afraid to, because they are men. It'd be VERY odd behavior for a woman here, and might signal I am wanting to be touched, or whatever.

    Not sure exactly why I'm afraid, but I am. I smile and make eye contact and say "have a nice day", hand them the money and keep moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    I've given homeless $5 and more, but what I offer that is more precious, is advice.

    Point them out to the right town...

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    I'll sit down and talk to them about the mission, the place to go get free health care, etc. They don't want it. 'I don't have an ID' is a common thing to say. I went all through that with the stray - I know how to get ID and I try and tell them. It's all BS. The ones around here are chronic and don't want a hand UP they want a hand OUT.
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    As I said I don't either sometimes but a constant stream of them I just don't have the money to buy their booze, drugs, or cigs.
    Hell, I would hate passing a crowd of men to get into the store no matter what. I do not blame you, but that's just never happened to me here.

    I was in Tallahassee before I came, about 15 years ago, and I swear I don't think I ever saw a homeless person there. And I don't remember them being around when I was growing up in NY, either.

    Something(s) went to shit in the 1980's in America, and I can guess what that was.
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    These are people who CHOSE to live under those overpasses because they don't want to go into treatment. They don't want to give up booze or drugs even for 15 days or up to 90 days of being sheltered, clothed, and fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    I'll sit down and talk to them about the mission, the place to go get free health care, etc. They don't want it. 'I don't have an ID' is a common thing to say. I went all through that with the stray - I know how to get ID and I try and tell them. It's all BS. The ones around here are chronic and don't want a hand UP they want a hand OUT.
    But see, that's a right. People who want to be perennial hobos have the right to live that way, and the government has no right to try and FORCE them to change.

    OBVIOUSLY that does not mean they have a right to steal or that you have to give them anything, but if they can manage and they're contented, that's not the government's business UNLESS they have kids with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I have never engaged with them. I feel a little afraid to, because they are men. It'd be VERY odd behavior for a woman here, and might signal I am wanting to be touched, or whatever.

    Not sure exactly why I'm afraid, but I am. I smile and make eye contact and say "have a nice day", hand them the money and keep moving.
    I size them up a little first, but go right up to them.

    I explain I was outside for many years, and the most awkward thing, I don't want my advice to come off like, "Hey, get out of this town, go to such and such town" you know?

    So I ask them if they've ever been to Issaquah and tell them that this town is not good enough for homeless, and it's not... they could do much better.

    Now, "you can lead a horse to water" and I don't know if any take me up on my advice, but it's the best advice can give them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Hell, I would hate passing a crowd of men to get into the store no matter what. I do not blame you, but that's just never happened to me here.

    I was in Tallahassee before I came, about 15 years ago, and I swear I don't think I ever saw a homeless person there. And I don't remember them being around when I was growing up in NY, either.

    Something(s) went to shit in the 1980's in America, and I can guess what that was.
    You assume they all want to be able to get up and do on their own and that isn't true. You can lead them to water but you cannot make them drink.

    Many homeless simply refuse to abide by the rules of society. Their choice. Where I live they are very lucky they can get free health care and there are tons of food banks and such.

    Truly I should never hand out anything except a list of all the resources available to them. The ones with signs saying will work for food are lying. If you offer them work they don't want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    But see, that's a right. People who want to be perennial hobos have the right to live that way, and the government has no right to try and FORCE them to change.

    OBVIOUSLY that does not mean they have a right to steal or that you have to give them anything, but if they can manage and they're contented, that's not the government's business UNLESS they have kids with them.
    It is not a right to disturb the peace. Coming up to me in my car. Following me into the store, etc. Tonight I had to say 'May I please finish my transaction?' to address this guy and tell him for the second time in 5 minutes that I've given him all I plan on giving him.

    I've given him money before and a pack of cigs one time. But he has a home and he isn't hungry. I do not owe him money for beer and cigs everytime I see him!

    As you said you have not experienced that so you can't really speak to the laws passed to protect the public from aggressive panhandlers.
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    This is the richest country on earth, and we are struggling with how to treat homeless people with respect, because the government keeps making millions more homeless, every year.

    WTF is wrong with us, that we don't demand more from our government?

    Cleveland even has a whole bunch of policies about how the schools must handle homeless kids. WHY isn't the answer "get that kid and his folks into a home"?

    The biggest problem here is vacant houses. HITF can I have homeless families and vacant homes at the SAME TIME, and the fuckweasels in my city governement can't fix either problem?

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    Knight, what part of Georgia are you in?
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