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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Somewhat. The idea behind the Golden Calf - or any form of idolatry - is that of worshipping something other than G-d. In the above case, it would be as though one was worshipping oneself.
    Essentially, that is always the problem. You take an object, imbue it with divinity, and then (inevitably) project your own ideas onto it, thereby essentially worshiping yourself, convincing yourself that your own beliefs are actually god and are infallible.

    As the book title says, if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    After observing this particular forum section on religion for a while I saw that there were many who came here not to try to discuss matters intelligently and with due respect to God and Jesus Christ but rather came just to condemn, to mock and to chastise those who were believers and of course there had to be the other side to this with the truth as God has presented in Scripture. Therefore, in coming to this section to discuss such matters the quote you are referring to means that if any of those folks wanted to engage me in conversation merely to ridicule the Christian faith or try to find fault with God who is infallible, etc. I would certainly not spend one moment with such infidels and heathens who do not want to keep an open mind because they Do Not Want To Understand About Jesus Christ. They do however, come here just to try to ruin souls by posting things that some weak-thinking individuals might actually believe is true when we know that it actually isn't. Their attempt and goal is to try to discredit God and religion in general and it may cause those who don't know any better to seek other ways away from God thus seriously mislead them leading them away from salvation that is so all-important for man to embrace. The final choice however, is up to the individual to save themselves or not. But they should be aware of both sides to this most important issue because their final answer will be locked throughout eternity.
    You are obviously a very rude, arrogant and hateful person. You are not a good witness for your faith.

    Perhaps you should pray about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Those who oppose God thus, Jesus Christ, are called Anti-Christs because you can't have it both ways. You cannot serve two masters. You are either WITH Jesus Christ or you are against Him. There is no middle way.
    God is lucky to have you on earth to tell us all what He is thinking.

    What should I tell the poor kids in rural China who have never heard of Jesus Christ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    You are either WITH Jesus Christ or you are against Him. There is no middle way.
    No, that's George Bush you are thinking of
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    After observing this particular forum section on religion for a while I saw that there were many who came here not to try to discuss matters intelligently and with due respect to God and Jesus Christ but rather came just to condemn, to mock and to chastise those who were believers and of course there had to be the other side to this with the truth as God has presented in Scripture. Therefore, in coming to this section to discuss such matters the quote you are referring to means that if any of those folks wanted to engage me in conversation merely to ridicule the Christian faith or try to find fault with God who is infallible, etc. I would certainly not spend one moment with such infidels and heathens who do not want to keep an open mind because they Do Not Want To Understand About Jesus Christ. They do however, come here just to try to ruin souls by posting things that some weak-thinking individuals might actually believe is true when we know that it actually isn't. Their attempt and goal is to try to discredit God and religion in general and it may cause those who don't know any better to seek other ways away from God thus seriously mislead them leading them away from salvation that is so all-important for man to embrace. The final choice however, is up to the individual to save themselves or not. But they should be aware of both sides to this most important issue because their final answer will be locked throughout eternity.

    Even God does not compel any person that He has created to absolutely do as He says. That is why He gave people Free Will choice. However, since He also gave them a good brain to think with, He does expect people to be intelligent enough to think clearly about their future as eternal beings in spirit and to open their heart to do as the Bible says in order to save themselves and be able to peacefully enter into Heaven at their appointed time. Those who oppose God thus, Jesus Christ, are called Anti-Christs because you can't have it both ways. You cannot serve two masters. You are either WITH Jesus Christ or you are against Him. There is no middle way.
    Your whole premise is a lie. You said, "...many who came here not to try to discuss matters intelligently and with due respect to God and Jesus Christ," First, you presume that anyone who does not bow down to your god is not "intelligent". Second you refer to "due respect" to your god. The problem is that respect is never due to anyone, or anything. Respect is given, when earned. And that respect is not earned merely by virtue of "being - although even the matter of being is questionable in regards to God. However, we will let that go for the purpose of this discussion, and will allow you the premise that God is. That state does not, by default, earn respect. It is the actions of that God that dictates the level of respect that is "due".

    In this case we are referring to a God that decreed genocide. That, in itself, is enough to deny the "respect" you seem to think he is due. You do not want "respect" for God. You want fawning obeisance. You want everyone to simply fall to their knees, and subject themselves to your God without examining the actions of that God. That is not "intelligence"; it is blind obedience, which is the exact opposite of intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Just wondered since you have called rightwingers evil.

    Seemed like you've judged their conscience and so I wanted to explore whether you think that people can be moral and still be Trump voters, or if that's one of the things they need to ask God for forgiveness for.
    Have you asked that question of Hillary? If not , then your question is politically motivated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Have you asked that question of Hillary? If not , then your question is politically motivated.
    No shit. But you talk to who you're talking to, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Succinct and to the point. They are not "Satanic Democrats" because they go out of their way to help the people most in need in this country as God expects for them to do. However, if we must point fingers let us point them at the political party that rejects the poor, the hungry, the elderly, the sick and many other groups -- the Republicans.
    Where did Jesus instruct governments to do that? He instructed individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Jesus was a Jew you must not forget. As for the rest of the Jews many HAVE CONVERTED! As for those who have not only God can determine what happens to them.

    Jews For Jesus

    https://jewsforjesus.org/
    Jesus rebuked the pharisee.

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