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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Yes, God does put conditions on people. We can find all those conditions in Gods word. Basically rules for living. Basically go by those rules or you will have problems. For instance, Do Not Kill. If you do you will we inherit problems with the laws of the country you live in, which could be death or life in prison. Most of all he wants people to honor him and respect his will, which is to follow what he has said in the Bible. Since he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross for the sins of humanity that created a path for redemption or a path back to a relationship with God that was broken by Adam and Eve when they rejected God. So answering your question about rejecting God, yes you will pay a price for that by not inheriting the Kingdom of God. Accept him and you will have the Kingdom of God. Not complicated
    Are you God or his self appointed spokesperson?

    There are a lot of people in the world and more of them believe in someone other than a Christian God, if (gods) at all. Since you appear to be speaking for God, are you saying God will reject the majority of humans, from the Kingdom of God? Jews believe in God too, not in Christ as a Messiah. Other believe in god(s), just not the same God or, maybe the same, but believe, like Christians, their god(s) is/are the only one(s) that exist. If belief is a spiritual thing that is between God and those who believe, why have there been centuries of Christians trying to force people to "believe" and do much blood spilled even amongst Christans claiming their specific way to believe trumps all other ways to believe? Do you believe that God believes people who assume or expect they will be "chosen" will be chosen to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven? What do the writings of humans say God feels about vanity and humility and humans assuming to know what and who God will accept into the Kingdom of Heaven?

    Once again, among Christ's final words were to forgive his killers, "for they know not what they are doing" (killing the son of God). That aligns with not helping "the least among us" as one that one does not help or turns away, may also be an agent of God, like an angel.

    Some Christians keep saying he sent his son to die, while others say his son being killed by humans, showed humans NOT to kill (as Christ and the Ten Commandments reiterated.) BECAUSE they may kill, not just an innocent, but an angel or in Christ's case, the Son of God. Christ didn't die FOR the sins of humanity, crucifying Christ WAS a sin. Christ died as the result of human sin. The lesson is NOT to kill, because one might be killing someone like Christ who then "proved", according to human written scripture, he was not human, by rising from the dead.

    No, it does not appear complicated, but many Christians seem to want to skew, twist, spin it to their own interpretation, force other people to believe or make them believe God will condemn them to hell and vote for sinners, while at the same time, condemning other sinners, making it perhaps, far more complicated than it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Yep those evil babies choosing to die of hunger.
    They get to go to Heaven.

    And I think very few people experience a death that isn't painful.

    Whether it's a baby or a 100 yr. old person it probably sucks just as bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    God created humans with free will and they chose to do bad things rather then follow Gods will to do good things.
    Why did the supernatural puppet master create evil to begin with? He could have made humans perfect. Instead, he created humans while knowing ahead of time they were going to screw the world up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Anyone can mouth the words but a person must try to live the life Jesus preached us to live.

    That is often in conflict with many political ideologies.

    So no, God will not accept anyone of any political ideology because following that ideology means you are not following the Christian faith and you can't do both.
    I agree that what Democrats propose clashes with Gods will. Abortion for one is murdering the unborn. Pretty hard to justify that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Yep those evil babies choosing to die of hunger.
    Did you know they were starving and do something about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Are you God or his self appointed spokesperson?

    There are a lot of people in the world and more of them believe in someone other than a Christian God, if (gods) at all. Since you appear to be speaking for God, are you saying God will reject the majority of humans, from the Kingdom of God? Jews believe in God too, not in Christ as a Messiah. Other believe in god(s), just not the same God or, maybe the same, but believe, like Christians, their god(s) is/are the only one(s) that exist. If belief is a spiritual thing that is between God and those who believe, why have there been centuries of Christians trying to force people to "believe" and do much blood spilled even amongst Christans claiming their specific way to believe trumps all other ways to believe? Do you believe that God believes people who assume or expect they will be "chosen" will be chosen to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven? What do the writings of humans say God feels about vanity and humility and humans assuming to know what and who God will accept into the Kingdom of Heaven?

    Once again, among Christ's final words were to forgive his killers, "for they know not what they are doing" (killing the son of God). That aligns with not helping "the least among us" as one that one does not help or turns away, may also be an agent of God, like an angel.

    Some Christians keep saying he sent his son to die, while others say his son being killed by humans, showed humans NOT to kill (as Christ and the Ten Commandments reiterated.) BECAUSE they may kill, not just an innocent, but an angel or in Christ's case, the Son of God. Christ didn't die FOR the sins of humanity, crucifying Christ WAS a sin. Christ died as the result of human sin. The lesson is NOT to kill, because one might be killing someone like Christ who then "proved", according to human written scripture, he was not human, by rising from the dead.

    No, it does not appear complicated, but many Christians seem to want to skew, twist, spin it to their own interpretation, force other people to believe or make them believe God will condemn them to hell and vote for sinners, while at the same time, condemning other sinners, making it perhaps, far more complicated than it is.
    I am just passing on the message. What other people do with it, is their business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J View Post
    Why did the supernatural puppet master create evil to begin with? He could have made humans perfect. Instead, he created humans while knowing ahead of time they were going to screw the world up.
    He created good and evil to see what you would choose. God made humans perfect, but they have a choice. They want to be evil, they can, but expect the consequences of those choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    No, Man couldn't destroy Christ
    How did he die for your sins if he couldn't be killed.? That's a trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Part of Gods plan except the killers didn't know he would rise from the dead.
    If Jesus was the Son of God and without sin, then according to scripture, he was incapable of being killed, and could therefore not have served as a blood sacrifice for the sins of mankind.

    If death is not the wages of sin, as asserted by scripture, then forgiveness of sin via blood sacrifice could not overcome death.

    If death is indeed the wages of sin, as asserted by scripture, then Jesus was indeed immortal and immune from death.

    This represents a logical conundrum that cannot be wished away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J View Post
    Why did the supernatural puppet master create evil to begin with? He could have made humans perfect. Instead, he created humans while knowing ahead of time they were going to screw the world up.
    I asked him that back on page 1. If god created everything why did he create evil.

    pat response: Free will

    If God gave man free will, then why is he pissed at mans nature? Can't give me free will then get pissed I use it.

    Same ol dog chasing tail routine.
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