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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    If god gave free will, then he should have put no condition on man. Let man grow unfettered.

    It makes no sense to say man has free will then put conditions on them.
    There are repercussions to our free will actions, go against his teachings then there is a price to pay, on Earth and after death. Some think it's all a fantasy. Faith isn't something seen, smelled, touched, and it's ok to ask questions, but me, i'm believing, just in case it's all true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Yep those evil babies choosing to die of hunger.
    The babies didn't choose, the leaders who run the countries where they are starving choose to not care if they die of hunger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Dying of starvation is agony. You claim that God is benevolent and yet he watches these babies die because he doesn't want to give him any rain. Nice guy

    if we didn't have bad we would never appreciate good. God gave us this world and life, it is up to us to choose what we do with it. Sure God could fix things with each minute, but that's not how Faith works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beatleboy View Post
    if we didn't have bad we would never appreciate good. God gave us this world and life, it is up to us to choose what we do with it. Sure God could fix things with each minute, but that's not how Faith works.
    I think I am going to beat my child so she will appreciate what it's like not being beaten. And I love how simplistic that it's up to us to choose what we do with it. You act as though everybody can just choose how they'll be. I wonder what the child being drowned in the tsunami is planning for her future and I guess she's learning to appreciate what it's like not to be drowning
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    Quote Originally Posted by beatleboy View Post
    The babies didn't choose, the leaders who run the countries where they are starving choose to not care if they die of hunger.
    You choose to blame the leaders. I choose to blame a malevolent god who denies rains for the crops. After all isn't he a omnipotent
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    Quote Originally Posted by beatleboy View Post
    There are repercussions to our free will actions, go against his teachings then there is a price to pay, on Earth and after death. Some think it's all a fantasy. Faith isn't something seen, smelled, touched, and it's ok to ask questions, but me, i'm believing, just in case it's all true.
    And what if it is all true and you didn't believe? Would a benevolent God punish you for questioning its existence? I thought God was supposed to be benevolent

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Death with Christ was not the end, but the beginning when he rose from death.
    Death with Christ was not the end because Christ was incapable of dying, and He knew this all along. As the Son of God, He had to have been well aware of his own immortality.

    No death -- no sacrifice. No sacrifice -- no redemption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    I don't understand your accusation of labeling democrats clashing with god. Most Democrats are Christians, just that they don't put religion ahead of the laws of the land. You might also learn that abortion or shall I say reproductive freedom is used by both Democrats and Republicans and atheists and you name it
    I realize some people put the law of the land before their religious beliefs, I personally don't. I try to elect a President or a represenative that comes close to what I believe so they get laws passed I can live with. Laws can be changed by what the voters want, not visa versa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    I may be important but I'm not God. No matter how hard I try I cannot make rain. But if I could make rain and if I chose not to I would be awful person
    Did you donate money to World Concern or some other organization that could feed people so they don't starve? If your answer is no, then you didn't help when you knew people were going hungry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Sounds like humans are a cute little experiment for him. Imagine if I did that with my children.
    I couldn't imagine raising children any other way. Teach them to make good choices rather then bad ones. You don't want to do that?

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