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    What are Christians giving up, by supporting a sinner, while condemning others?

    How are these sorts of things reconciled by those that condemn others or refuse rights to others based on claims it goes against their "beliefs"?





    7 Things Christians Are Giving Up By Still Supporting Donald Trump



    It may sound like I’m saying that Christians whose personal/spiritual convictions led them to support and vote for Donald Trump shouldn’t have been faithful to those convictions—but I’m really not. In both America and in Christ there is freedom and that’s a beautiful thing.

    I am saying, that Christians need to realize that having done so (and then doubling down on him despite his reprehensible conduct since taking office) they have lost an audience with an entire generation not steeped in religion, who are seeing the hypocrisy present, who are recognizing the cognitive dissonance at work, and who have no interest in ever being part of it. They are permanently compromising their testimony in the world and making Jesus obsolete.

    To paraphrase a question Jesus asked those who would follow after him, Christians need to ask themselves:

    “What will it profit a Church if it gains the Presidency but loses its soul?”

    We’re finding out now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    How are these sorts of things reconciled by those that condemn others or refuse rights to others based on claims it goes against their "beliefs"?





    7 Things Christians Are Giving Up By Still Supporting Donald Trump



    It may sound like I’m saying that Christians whose personal/spiritual convictions led them to support and vote for Donald Trump shouldn’t have been faithful to those convictions—but I’m really not. In both America and in Christ there is freedom and that’s a beautiful thing.

    I am saying, that Christians need to realize that having done so (and then doubling down on him despite his reprehensible conduct since taking office) they have lost an audience with an entire generation not steeped in religion, who are seeing the hypocrisy present, who are recognizing the cognitive dissonance at work, and who have no interest in ever being part of it. They are permanently compromising their testimony in the world and making Jesus obsolete.

    To paraphrase a question Jesus asked those who would follow after him, Christians need to ask themselves:

    “What will it profit a Church if it gains the Presidency but loses its soul?”

    We’re finding out now.

    7 Things Christians Are Giving Up By Still Supporting Donald Trump | john pavlovitz
    There was a great leader in Israel long ago named King David.. He was a Godly man, but he desired a woman name Bathsheba that was married. David sent her husband (that was part of the military) to the front lines knowing he would be killed. He took Bathsheba for his wife and had his son Solomon the next King. David fought many battles and built Israel into a strong nation. To this day most Jews consider David the greatest leader of their nation that ever lived even though he sinned. You are making a case that no one cares about it because Great men of God are ones that made some mistakes but become better men from it. People care about what he is doing know, not twenty years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    There was a great leader in Israel long ago named King David.. He was a Godly man, but he desired a woman name Bathsheba that was married. David sent her husband (that was part of the military) to the front lines knowing he would be killed. He took Bathsheba for his wife and had his son Solomon the next King. David fought many battles and built Israel into a strong nation. To this day most Jews consider David the greatest leader of their nation that ever lived even though he sinned. You are making a case that no one cares about it because Great men of God are ones that made some mistakes but become better men from it. People care about what he is doing know, not twenty years ago.
    What is he doing now that Christians can justify supporting him? He's worse now than ever???

    And Jesus is mad at you for even mentioning Davids name in an answer about supporting that scumbag Trump..

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    The Christians in question would be giving up integrity and dignity and respect.


    But chances are they had none previously anyway.
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    The president has a direct impact in my life as a Christian so I must make the best choice I can from the options given to me.

    It doesn't mean I support what that person is, does, or stands for, it means I am doing the most for myself and my faith that I possibly can in the political realm.
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    Uh no

    The guy marries bimbos half his age, then divorces them and pays them out. Kids from three different mums. His "marriages" are an insult to Christianity. Then to top it off he brags about mollesting women and getting away with it. Because they're powerless and he's rich.

    There is no possible way a Cheistian could tolerate this man. He's abhorrent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    The president has a direct impact in my life as a Christian so I must make the best choice I can from the options given to me.

    It doesn't mean I support what that person is, does, or stands for, it means I am doing the most for myself and my faith that I possibly can in the political realm.
    Rubber meet Road

    So sacrifice the Humility And Righteousness of Christ in support of an unrighteousness haughty vile person to protect a law or laws that has no tie or bearing on the actual Faith?

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    This is why some Christians need to keep their faith and defense of Christ secret. Because they alone can tear down his kingdom by boasting in the streets

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    There a Provincial election here in May and I won't be voting. One party is corrupt and vile, another is inept, and the third is dangerously naive.

    When there's no political party or leader that represents you, don't vote. The number of people not voting is necessary information for media, politicians and parties to know how many peoples votes are still available.

    When 45% of eligible voters don't vote, it lets parties know there's a whole pool of people out there whose votes they could win if they represent those people.

    If Christians aren't voting, it forces both parties to start to appeal to Christians. Or the other will.

    You do NOT go to church on Sunday and then vote for Donald Trump. That's obscene.

    It's an insult to all Christians.
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